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This is from the Midnight chart thread in the Bazaar, but here seemed like a much more appropriate place to ask about it. This is from a post by TheWeasel (sorry, I can't get the name to show up in bold:)

 
I have memorized every chart that currently exists, plus Alpha-Winter Solstice and one extra point in the Sapphire arch.


To what is he referring when he says 'one extra point in the Sapphire arch'? Where is it?

Are there any other extra routes/points that people know of, other than Alpha/Winter, that cannot currently be bought or pillaged?
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In our flag forum, one of our officers just posted a screen cap of his ship 'off the map.' Somehow, he ended up at an 'invalid' league point. I have guesses as to how the map works internally, and I imagine that if you're lucky, you could memorize the point if you were naving.

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Has this happened anywhere else or only in Sapphire... and are the two points the same?
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I'd be interested in a screenshot of this "extra point" in Sapphire.
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Jothmar wrote: 
Has this happened anywhere else or only in Sapphire... and are the two points the same?

The incident of which I speak was not in Sapphire.

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I'd be interested in a screenshot of this "extra point" in Sapphire.


I'd like to see it as well.

Heck, he's offering to teach it. If I had Sapphire memmed, I'd probably pay the price for one point. "You got an extra point? Ok. Teach me." (TheWeasel? You here?)
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my wife was stick in a loop one night.... 3 points south from turtle she veered off the route to go 2 points toward the byrne area. She naved it 4 times and was attacked 4 times fer league while in there, but I haven't seen it happen since.
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Ahoy! TheWeasel here... pirate name Zallandra...

I learned the "extra point" during the time when a bunch of extra charts existed, including Alpha-Winter Solstice and a whole slew of Sapphire charts.

I figure it must have come from a Remora - Verdant or Beta - Horseshoe Crabs chart.
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That's from Horseshoe Crabs-Beta. It's noted as deleted in the latest version of my map :)
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Nifty!

Thanks for your help.

Anyone else have a point on that map, or any of the other Sapphire points? Somebody must....
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IcabobFreely wrote: 
my wife was stick in a loop one night.... 3 points south from turtle she veered off the route to go 2 points toward the byrne area. She naved it 4 times and was attacked 4 times fer league while in there, but I haven't seen it happen since.


i too before have oddly gone way off course, the boat just kind of slowly turned
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Dipping into the rum too much, are we?
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get the alignment checked on your sloop...
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I have always wonder if there was a hidden island somewhere in Midnight. Not likely, but something for me to think about all day.
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There's always those lost archipelagos... ;)

My map's been updated, and now all those "dead" routes show at 50% opacity. Note that the only dead route I have fully memmed is alpha-winter, so I can't personally help you. I think however that perhaps a couple of the earlier full-ocean-memmers could.
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Willturna wrote: 
I have always wonder if there was a hidden island somewhere in Midnight. Not likely, but something for me to think about all day.


Well some times when you do a /who on a dev or OM you get
Location: Secret
so you never know.
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Jothmar wrote: 
Willturna wrote: 
I have always wonder if there was a hidden island somewhere in Midnight. Not likely, but something for me to think about all day.


Well some times when you do a /who on a dev or OM you get
Location: Secret
so you never know.


Have you ever tried /vwho Secret ?
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Lallaria wrote: 
Jothmar wrote: 
Willturna wrote: 
I have always wonder if there was a hidden island somewhere in Midnight. Not likely, but something for me to think about all day.


Well some times when you do a /who on a dev or OM you get
Location: Secret
so you never know.


Have you ever tried /vwho Secret ?


They like to break their own ship naming conventions all willy-nilly.
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54x wrote: 
My map's been updated, and now all those "dead" routes show at 50% opacity.


Awesome. Many thanks.

I will pay people well (as well as my means allow) to chart them; I don't have any to trade myself, other than Alpha/Winter.
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I managed to once hit a point 2 leagues NW & one point W of Alpha; it came from getting engaged by a brig as I left the league point to the west of that (NE of Cnossos). I screenshotted it and bug reported; When I left the point there wasn't a way of getting to it on any of those maps (Turtle-Alpha-Cnossos-Turtle loop the point but don't touch it).

I'll send the pic to someone to host if you like.
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There is also a Papaya/Remora route that I have never seen the chart to. But I do have it Mem'd :-)

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Jothmar wrote: 
Willturna wrote: 
I have always wonder if there was a hidden island somewhere in Midnight. Not likely, but something for me to think about all day.


Well some times when you do a /who on a dev or OM you get
Location: Secret
so you never know.


I've seen the "Secret" ship in port at remote islands before ;)
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RavenHawk wrote: 
There is also a Papaya/Remora route that I have never seen the chart to. But I do have it Mem'd :-)


Hate to break it to ye, but that's a common chart... I'm looking at two copies of it right now.
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Chotogirl wrote: 


I've seen the "Secret" ship in port at remote islands before ;)


I've actually seen it in port at Eps a few times (sometimes with Cleaver aboard). What do you guys do aboard these ships (besides hide from us)? :D
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RavenHawk wrote: 
There is also a Papaya/Remora route that I have never seen the chart to. But I do have it Mem'd :-)

Edited due a blonde moment. Booch !!


/em breathes. Ah, well. It happens. :)

I have seen that one, as well as Byrne/Remora. Not sure why there's two, but who am I to complain?

People who went off course: did you end up memming any of those weird points you ended up at? I'm just curious.
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There are two because there were two in azure as well ;) In fact, in azure, Sapphire had THREE interarchs, two to diamond and one to ruby.
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Ooo, that's cool.

This seems like an appropriate place to ask: I've heard a lot of talk of an Xi-Eclipse route, but I can't find it on any map. Does anyone know if it exists?
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I heard of it earlier on in midnight, so I marked it tentatively on my map at 50% opacity. Nobody ever sent confirmation in, so I dropped it.
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Okay, thanks. I hadn't heard of it until recently, and I keep seeing it mentioned. Perhaps it's my imagination...
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Interesting...

While it's not what I had originally posted about (see TheWeasel/Zallandra's post for a screenshot of that - memmed points from charts that have been deleted from the beginning of Midnight) it's the first shot I personally have seen of a boat wandering off course, which a lot of people say they have had happen.

Did you end up memming the point you landed at?
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