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Lotus_elise3
Joined: Feb 9, 2005 Posts: 2409 Status: Offline |
Guerrilla Warfare Mission Statement https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xOxENHyTl_w ![]() We have come to a point on Obsidian where sitting back and doing nothing, or relying upon other forces to fight is no longer an option. I am not a big fan of the likes of Amateur Hour, I'm not afraid of making that known although do have some time for the likes of Seepnah in particular as we have known each other for some time. I have in recent blockades been in support of and jobbing for Blame Brenda, believing them to be the better of the two options available to us and having a good rapport with Betty. However I am concerned for the way things will move forward from here, particularly given the level of resources available to Blame Brenda notably via the use of Pika/Bettyishawt's credit card. Of which this individual has been all too happy to make known to the ocean. I do not have issue with flaunting purchased in-game wealth via Golden Grand Frigs or 1m and 500k tournaments. However this leads on to a secondary issue - the impact this can have on the political and blockade landscape on Obsidian. While Blame Brenda respectfully kept pay at 5k a seg during the recent blockade and acquisition of Loggerhead Island, it is clear that even with capped jobber pay the resources available to Blame Brenda are much more significant than any other flag or person on the ocean. They intelligently offered a War Frig to people at cost of labour once stock was provided. I was a recipient of one of these and it added to the appeal of jobbing for them, when in comparison AH seemed to be doing very little to provide these ships to other flags/people outside of their own. I am concerned that we will very quickly move into a place where the landscape of blockading will be dictated by Blame Brenda solely, that this will lead to one majorly dominant "Alliance Ring" which will effectively kill off any opposition flags with lesser numbers, finances or fleet with ease. This is something we have seen happen on other oceans, but the gross level of funds that seem to be available to Blame Brenda make this an even bigger and longer term issue. I need to be clear that I equally do not believe Amateur Hour are the answer to this and do not feel we should rely upon or support that particular group of people. I do not expect there to be flags that can compete with Blame Brenda financially at least in terms of the longevity of their funds. Which is why I am proposing a call to arms for all flags to adapt Guerrilla Warfare tactics. Ambush
Blockading
Stalls and Shoppekeeping Boycott
I do have every expectation there will be counter arguments that Blame Brenda are good for this ocean. 1 million PoE and 500k Tournaments are great, but they also are a not so subliminal message that these sums of money are insignificant drops in the pond. Psychologically people, Monarchs, are going to question how they even consider competing with the likes of this. War Frigs sold to the public sweetened the deal for the likes of myself and many others when making decisions to job for one side or another. Some of this may have been genuine good will/faith and at the time was certainly something AH was not doing. Again, politically a strategic move by Blame Brenda. They recently blockaded Loggerhead when the ocean appeared to briefly stagnate/be content with Island sitting. I was personally delighted to see this as weekend after weekend without blockade was dull, again politically it's a key move to demonstrate to the public you are "pro blockades" and "anti-stagnation" to do this and I am sure this was key in the decision making alongside the other benefit of removing the only current and real opposition to Blame Brenda when the first large island opens in the coming months. I will personally be following some of the tactics outlined above, but to have any real impact other flags will need to play their part. This is by no means a recruitment drive, these things can be followed by everyone in their own flags. ---------------------------------------- A Confirmed Basterd, Antix Of Guerrilla Warfare 2018 fame |
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Filthyjake
Joined: Jun 14, 2012 Posts: 1115 Status: Offline |
They are playing a top knoch political game. Good luck with you mission your political game as far as I saw last week was filling the kade board so you could push out ships and sink them. While they give you take, good luck. They actually drooped a kade to spice things up. They shut down stalls and posted a thread for salt posting they are poking people left and right and they still would get me to log in and job for them... oh they won't hire me but still props to them for taking control. ---------------------------------------- Filthyjake all oceans (Obsidian Primary) Filthyjake6145 (discord) ?Retired? On a Break? I found a new love... Casual player or yet another who moved on. |
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Lotus_elise3
Joined: Feb 9, 2005 Posts: 2409 Status: Offline |
Jake just to be clear sinking one Sloop with my War Brig that Technitium had already pushed out of the safe zone and was intending on sinking himself, does not constitute by any definition my "political game". I do genuinely enjoy your enthusiasm to post things, often in abundance, but please take some time to re-read things before clicking on the post button. ---------------------------------------- A Confirmed Basterd, Antix Of Guerrilla Warfare 2018 fame |
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Filthyjake
Joined: Jun 14, 2012 Posts: 1115 Status: Offline |
You made your stance or political speach/intent or what ever it was, you even pointed out how great BB was to the ocean, while asking people to attack them because why? you think they are good people? I have been on your pvp's and enjoyed them. I was just saying they are playing a good political game, what I have seen of yours was disruptive not constructive. ![]() ---------------------------------------- Filthyjake all oceans (Obsidian Primary) Filthyjake6145 (discord) ?Retired? On a Break? I found a new love... Casual player or yet another who moved on. |
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greedy12
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While your arguments are solid and strategy makes sense, I would urge players to focus on enjoying the game. If you find taking down the dominant power on the ocean fun, then go for it. If you find blockading with less jobbers fun, then go for it. However, if you don't enjoy running a (for example), 40 v 80 jobber blockade, then don't do it, its not worth it. Its about the journey, not the end destination. |
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Anzak1
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To say it's a journey not a destination is to quote a hallmark card, and of equal utility to the situation at hand. Blockades have always been the high-end game of PuzPi. What Antix has proposed here is a valid way to fight against a more entrenched enemy through asymmetric warfare. Yeah, we can be passive about the looming shadow of Brenda, but why? It's our decision to make the endeavor to fight them enjoyable, and what better way to bind a group together than to unite against a common enemy? That sense of communal bond yields a more enjoyable playing experience, as playing without friends is pretty much signing up for a very vanilla and bland time. ---------------------------------------- Platitude |
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Prammy16
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This. The social aspect is one of the best foundations of PP as a whole. Crews and flags (especially with discord/Vent) is what makes this game great. ---------------------------------------- -Porglit on Emerald -Shadetemplar on Obsidian |
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natethedawg
Joined: Aug 10, 2007 Posts: 144 Status: Offline |
I personally love seeing that someone has thought through a plan that actually can weaken a stronger opponent, no matter what side of the politics youre on this is just a good example of a thought out intent to take on a stronger enemy. I was looking forward to a governor shutting down a shoppe and the ensuing events. Ever since I heard of the feature I knew it would really spice up blockading, because now blockading is for TRUE control of the island and not just the palace and possible shoppes (mediums previously were maxed out by the colonizing flag and now can be destroyed and rebuilt to the new flags desires). I think it was a smart move on the Devs part and whoever may have suggested it was a genius. Its been a long time since the cade scene has meant more than just a trophy on your pirate page. Everyone knows islands are rarely ever profitable after a blockade unless you are able to sit on it for a long time, but this adds a whole new aspect to the game and it is posts like these that give me hope for the future of Puzzle Pirates. ---------------------------------------- Natedawg King of Primordial Raiders Cabin Person of Sumiyoshi Sanjin Tsunami Obsidian My posts are a reflection of my flags thinking. Except when they're not. ------------------ Lord of Illusion Captain of the High Seas Council Emerald |
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Tomanomanous
Joined: Feb 10, 2018 Posts: 144 Status: Offline |
I think its time for the shadow fleet to band together and take an island. Or you know, if we all can't agree and work together... Betty I challenge you to a 1v1, swabbies only, sloop bump-off for loggerhead. ---------------------------------------- Tomanomanous - Princess of Fresh and Bold on Obsidian Tumanumanus - Totally inconspicuous undercover spy in Marooned on Obsidian Avatar by the brilliant Crabcake |
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BHorror
Joined: Jul 4, 2005 Posts: 635 Status: Offline |
Hey, I don't care if Antix says hes not the biggest fan of the flag I'm in, cool dude in my book. With so few players, I have no idea what the best move for the ocean is at this point personally, but I think trying to set goals like you have is a good start to get people thinking about who controls what. Also, I propose we elect Antix Monarch of the ocean for the month for this quote.
EDIT: Uhm, I don't know how Antix hacked my forum account and wrote the first line of this post but I think we should totally get the FBI to track down this dirtbag for using me to spread his horrible propaganda. ---------------------------------------- Horror from Emerald and Obsidian ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by BHorror at Mar 8, 2018 10:46:37 AM] |
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Filthyjake
Joined: Jun 14, 2012 Posts: 1115 Status: Offline |
I don't get the love fest but w/e I don't have to, His arguments are poor at best best. What he says about Blame Brenda,
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I have done a good job of explaining how good/nice they are for the ocean and ethical as well, but you should beware... Lets attack them every chance we get because they have 2 islands, and play ethically. --------------------------------------------------------- While he laid out how great they are, he is not wrong they are a super power. I am glad your impressed by people who flood the board with ships to block people from watching the kade, then sinks them after spelling out how great BB was, his tactics are pvping in the gray zone, every one every time every chance. That will help the game grow. I will give him credit he does get the +1 support for hatting on me and my questioning his motives after spelling out how great they are, then asking us to join us in destroying them for ? being great? I definitely don't see the politics or call to right the well behaved, loving pirates, who have done no bad, just won. My questions were genuine, I really think someone who does good is playing a better political game then someone who takes over the whole safe zone because they can. Trust me I allays want to like the underdog but its tough to hate them when you spend a bunch of time spelling out how good they are. I read this twice and edited it and read it again and edited read it one last time and thought should I post this, well why not after all its really long and people like to read. ---------------------------------------- Filthyjake all oceans (Obsidian Primary) Filthyjake6145 (discord) ?Retired? On a Break? I found a new love... Casual player or yet another who moved on. |
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Captntipper
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But, I don't think that Antix said anywhere in his post that BB are bad guys... ---------------------------------------- Captnnemo - Obsidian |
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Tomanomanous
Joined: Feb 10, 2018 Posts: 144 Status: Offline |
I mean I like BB but Betty now has to 1v1 me for the island. Don't have to hate someone to cade against them. I mean cading magpie is perhaps a bit rough since they have developed that island, but logger, lets all band together and take it if Betty doesn't 1v1 me. Shadow Fleet untie! ---------------------------------------- Tomanomanous - Princess of Fresh and Bold on Obsidian Tumanumanus - Totally inconspicuous undercover spy in Marooned on Obsidian Avatar by the brilliant Crabcake |
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alysha111
Joined: Jan 26, 2006 Posts: 50 Status: Offline |
We heard you! I hope you will come support us on Saturday :D https://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=2717814#2717814 ---------------------------------------- Dressedinred, Captain of Marooned, Queen of Fresh and Bold Chinstrap blushes and touches Nick's hand slightly |
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Lotus_elise3
Joined: Feb 9, 2005 Posts: 2409 Status: Offline |
My responses are in bold. ---------------------------------------- A Confirmed Basterd, Antix Of Guerrilla Warfare 2018 fame ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by Lotus_elise3 at Mar 10, 2018 3:17:49 AM] |
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Kyura94
Joined: Oct 31, 2010 Posts: 331 Status: Offline |
---------------------------------------- Ryuken on Emerald. I made a Distilling guide here, and a guns one somewhere. Offering docktart-citadel front row seats since Aug2020 :D |
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Filthyjake
Joined: Jun 14, 2012 Posts: 1115 Status: Offline |
Again what are they doing that is wrong? That we should target them? ---------------------------------------- Filthyjake all oceans (Obsidian Primary) Filthyjake6145 (discord) ?Retired? On a Break? I found a new love... Casual player or yet another who moved on. |
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Lotus_elise3
Joined: Feb 9, 2005 Posts: 2409 Status: Offline |
![]() ---------------------------------------- A Confirmed Basterd, Antix Of Guerrilla Warfare 2018 fame |
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Filthyjake
Joined: Jun 14, 2012 Posts: 1115 Status: Offline |
So nothing? Seriously can you give me 5-10 reasons why they are bad for the ocean? ---------------------------------------- Filthyjake all oceans (Obsidian Primary) Filthyjake6145 (discord) ?Retired? On a Break? I found a new love... Casual player or yet another who moved on. |
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Devonin
Joined: Jul 28, 2003 Posts: 3576 Status: Offline |
Here's a crazy idea Jake: You don't agree with the logic and so won't sign on to engage in the behavior. Cool. Maybe they don't CARE enough about your support to go any more out of their way to convince you than they already have. They are calling upon people who feel a certain way to coordinate their efforts, as part of the way they choose to play the game. Demanding they drop everything to convince you positions yourself as perhaps a little more important than you are. |
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Filthyjake
Joined: Jun 14, 2012 Posts: 1115 Status: Offline |
Don't underestimate me I will give every thing i can to stop something I don't agree with. I just cant see what they are doing... is Betty really Castro? I just want a simple list of things instead I get a pic. ---------------------------------------- Filthyjake all oceans (Obsidian Primary) Filthyjake6145 (discord) ?Retired? On a Break? I found a new love... Casual player or yet another who moved on. |
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DementedDuck
Joined: Mar 31, 2006 Posts: 3153 Status: Offline |
He explained his entire premise in the OP, either read it or stop posting. He doesn't owe it to you to dumb it down so you understand. ---------------------------------------- Evilduck/Superduck. Emerald, Cerulean, and that other one. Now in Obsidian flavour. I record puzzles. |
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Kyura94
Joined: Oct 31, 2010 Posts: 331 Status: Offline |
I thought it was: Don't underestimate me I will give Be consistent. ---------------------------------------- Ryuken on Emerald. I made a Distilling guide here, and a guns one somewhere. Offering docktart-citadel front row seats since Aug2020 :D |
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Filthyjake
Joined: Jun 14, 2012 Posts: 1115 Status: Offline |
um for a week relax stop focusing on me I should not be such a big part of your life. I seriously don't understand now are we using these tactics on AH just trying to keep up I have till Sunday before I said I would leave. Now that they control everything? ---------------------------------------- Filthyjake all oceans (Obsidian Primary) Filthyjake6145 (discord) ?Retired? On a Break? I found a new love... Casual player or yet another who moved on. |
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Anzak1
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![]() @Jake ---------------------------------------- Platitude |
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Filthyjake
Joined: Jun 14, 2012 Posts: 1115 Status: Offline |
Stop What? ---------------------------------------- Filthyjake all oceans (Obsidian Primary) Filthyjake6145 (discord) ?Retired? On a Break? I found a new love... Casual player or yet another who moved on. |
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lady_maeror
Joined: Jul 8, 2007 Posts: 172 Status: Offline |
Sorry, but I find it hilarious that you think Pika and Bettyishawt are the only ones maxing out their credit cards or are the sole reason for BBs past success. For one, there IS a cap per month. It can be raised but most pirates bring it up to $400 and leave it at that. However even if they increased their caps beyond that, most of the high end elite pirates and pirates of old have always accumulated their wealth through the purchase of dubloons. Yes their are some rich pirates that are predominantly or strictly vanilla (not pay to win/using RL $$$) but their far less common then you think. The fact that you have multiple large flags with millions of Poe behind them but unable to control the two islands, (SS, BB and lions bane) is evidence that it doesnt matter how much you flaunt your credit card. Ultimately you need player support and established connections to win the two islands. ---------------------------------------- Aeyelle of the Arianne of the Obsidian Ocean |
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Pikapyah
Joined: Feb 12, 2018 Posts: 211 Status: Offline |
:p and yeah you are right. But if u take away the only thing they can bash on(my CC) they ain't got nothing left. ---------------------------------------- "economy killer, destroyer of stalls" Pika says, "make it war bae" Catch 'em all declared war on Scuppering Shrews. Catch 'em all declared war on For Fox Sake. Catch 'em all declared war on Consider it Sunk. |
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Aligate
Joined: Aug 20, 2005 Posts: 471 Status: Offline |
If your CC was actually helping you to win islands then I guess people would have more reason to bash on it. It doesn't seem that relevant anymore. Nor do you. ---------------------------------------- Aristoza Amateur Owl Fourteen flag royalty chats, "just tell them to suck 14s nuts" Avatar by the lovely and talented Cattrin |
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Filthyjake
Joined: Jun 14, 2012 Posts: 1115 Status: Offline |
Lolz their sure has been lots of talk about unethical play if one maxes pay, by many. Guess all is good to go with the 9999's out the gate then. ---------------------------------------- Filthyjake all oceans (Obsidian Primary) Filthyjake6145 (discord) ?Retired? On a Break? I found a new love... Casual player or yet another who moved on. ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by Filthyjake at Mar 13, 2018 6:38:47 PM] |
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