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I've decided that I really want that shiny noted corsair's throne. The problem I have is that I have no conquerer reputation, and the things that ramp up the conquerer rep either I'm not ecstatic about (BKs, IOs, VRs), or that only occur at odd intervals (skellies/zombies, blockades).

Given that it's looking like I'm going to have to grind out to get my shiney seat, what is the fastest way to get conquerer to illustrious? Can I buy a zillion BK compasses, and then lose on purpose?

(Just as an aside for my hearties who invite me on BKs and the like... I'm not opposed to doing them, go ahead and continue inviting me on them. I just do them sporadically enough that I'll never hit illustrious just doing ones I get invited onto. I'm going to have to make a conscious, concerted effort, and want to know on a time-to-return basis what's best.)
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I don't know what the easiest/fastest way to get it is, but when I got mine I got it by running hilariously large amounts of small sinky IOs / medium VRs on a baghlah. Skellies/zombies don't spawn often enough but if you see them while you're not on a trip, do go for them :P
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if you dont mind sinking poe for that illustrious conqueror thingy, buy plenty of small VR

those are easily beatable with 2 average gunners on a cutter due to the extra swabbies who would be helping fight the frays.. its not necessarily a sinking poe venture though, i think you can still break even on cost with 2 person onboard
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if you dont mind sinking poe for that illustrious conqueror thingy, buy plenty of small VR

Nope, I'm planning on buying my way to this trophy. Thanks for the tip.
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2 questions:
1. Would size of VR make a difference?

2. Does winning/loosing make a difference?

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I think Atlantean citadels score you conqueror, maybe job on loads of cit runs?
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I think Atlantean citadels score you conqueror, maybe job on loads of cit runs?
Nope, that's explorer.
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I've gotten numerous people Illustrious conqueror.

The going rate seems to be about 30 BKs in a span of 2 days or less, though I cannot be entirely sure. Possibly less now since everyone's at school/work.

You can spawn BKs and lose to them repeatedly, but you have to wait for them to grapple and lose. And I do believe (though I cannot prove) that losing to a BK gives you less conqueror rep than winning. You do get rep though.

Though now that I think about it, it should be that both situations give the same?

Ok, now I'm confused.

Then I think that if you were to spend the time waiting for them to grapple, you might as well come with me xD

In regards to the other methods, I personally think that they are a lot slower to get to illustrious, just because all the maps are at set points.

Having to spend the time to sail from one to the other and then dealing with the inevitable spawn that comes after... just no.

Buying them at any EH makes them spread out far more than is necessary.

Exceptions are the ones bought at Armstrong.

Each VR takes 5 mins from start to get to the island (I timed it once), and then another 2-3 minutes for the fray.

It takes about 7-12 mins per BK compass including the fray for me. Average about 4.5 -5.5 compasses an hour.

Less during slow hours and longer rejobs.

I do think that since the IO and VR maps are not used up if they are not won, they do not award Conqueror reputation.

I've never had my rep increase during losses (Source: I've done 200+ VRs, 200+ non-sinky and about 100+ sinky. Fair share of losses when I go with randoms.)
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I got it in about a week with BK compasses, the problem now is sloops arent spawning anymore for BKs. I don't know why but in about 300 attempts this week I got 1 sloop. I did an occasional skelly/zombie also.
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I got it in about a week with BK compasses, the problem now is sloops arent spawning anymore for BKs. I don't know why but in about 300 attempts this week I got 1 sloop. I did an occasional skelly/zombie also.


Additional bot means you have 5 ppl on your ship, so a sloop with 7 would be not enough advantage on the BK side except for Finius.
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I got it in about a week with BK compasses, the problem now is sloops arent spawning anymore for BKs. I don't know why but in about 300 attempts this week I got 1 sloop. I did an occasional skelly/zombie also.


It has to do with the additional swabbies they put on the ships.

If you dismiss one off the sloops, it will spawn sloop finius.
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Do not waste your dubs on that barnacle, you cant sit on it anyway. Just go to furnisher and watch the image for free.
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Do not waste your dubs on that barnacle, you cant sit on it anyway. Just go to furnisher and watch the image for free.

I can't job people onto blinged-out ships if I don't bling them out. And if the only thing I used my dubs on was badges, I would be set for the next six years, roughly. Assuming I played every day and kept up my labor badge, neither of which happens all the time.
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I did this with brand new greenie alt and no bots also. So no the extra bot was not a factor.
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By doing so you raise dub prices, better give them to some greenie and become saint.
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By doing so you raise dub prices, better give them to some greenie and become saint.

Nope, Gurn buying his furniture effectively does nothing to the price of doubloons at this point. He quite clearly already has doubloons saved up, whether it be from purchasing them previously with PoE on the exchange (small, temporary increase in the PoE-Doubloon exchange rate at the time of purchase), or from purchasing them with real money (no change to the PoE-Doubloon exchange rate at any time, unless he decides to sell them).
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Why should he buy doubs for real cash if he had savings for 6 years?
I think if peeps stop wasting doubs on crap and buy only badges and ships (swords sometimes) then the doublon prices go down because of demand decrease.
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All right, having finally gotten my golden gauntlet, I thought I'ld pass along my experiences in case anyone in the future wants to know (and can actually find the thread):
 
Given that it's looking like I'm going to have to grind out to get my shiney seat, what is the fastest way to get conquerer to illustrious? Can I buy a zillion BK compasses, and then lose on purpose?

Losing to a BK does add to conquerer (I moved up one rank on a loss), but I don't think it's enough to attempt this approach. It would probably cost you about a 500k to a million PoE to do it that way.

Skellies, zombies, and brigand kings seem like the fastest approach on a time-to-reputation basis. Viking raids, flotillas, and blockades don't do it quite as fast. At least, it seemed to me that things went faster when I was doing BKs than when I was doing viking raid marathons. I can't tell you about imperial outposts, as I didn't do many of them. I suspect, but can't verify, that viking raids give you more reputation when you do them "fairly"-- that is, when you match your ship size to the number of raiders, not when you hit a small one with a war brig.

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One last note: do werewolves help conqueror rep? They're not listed that way in the wiki, but it makes sense that they would.
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At least, it seemed to me that things went faster when I was doing BKs than when I was doing viking raid marathons.

Can't tell anything about BKs, but I logged out for a day just after gaining a new rep level several times, and by number of things I had to do to gain that rep level back, it seems that 1 skellie win roughly equals 2 successful viking raids on a sloop/dhow. I did it just a couple of times, however, not as any kind of systematic statistics gathering.
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FWIW, I was able to get Illustrious Conqueror (the first time, anyways) by doing ONLY small/med VR and small sinky IO. Using a baghlah has been suggested, and is a good idea, but I did mine on a junk, personally.
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xelto wrote: 
One last note: do werewolves help conqueror rep? They're not listed that way in the wiki, but it makes sense that they would.

i'm currently getting my conqueror reputation up with monster frays (faster spawning at the moment and all that), and can confirm that werewolves help conqueror reputation. mine has gone up after winning a werewolf fray.

i'm also keeping track of how long it takes for reputation to go up with these frays (on Emerald), if anyone is interested once i'm done.
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i wrote: 
i'm also keeping track of how long it takes for reputation to go up with these frays (on Emerald), if anyone is interested once i'm done.

forgot to update my post. it took me the following amount of winning frays to reach each reputation level (each number is the total).

obscure: 1
rumored: 3
noted: 6
established: 12
renowned: 25
celebrated: 52
eminent: 105
illustrious: 257.

i do believe that by the time i got illustrious (11 days), my reputation was degrading. i would perhaps expect that if it was done in 10 days, 215 may have been a more likely number.

in conclusion, don't solely use monster frays to get illustrious conqueror unless you are crazy.
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Thank you for your findings! Interesting to note!
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In conclusion, don't solely use monster frays to get illustrious conqueror unless you are crazy.


And don't use solely Viking Raids.... I didn't count, but I think it was around the same number (~20 per day, took 12 days)

I also notice a nearly-straight doubling pattern (probably nearly due to degradation over time). It has been rumored in the past that the same "doubling" applies to experience levels - i.e., if you just hit a level of exp, you're exactly halfway to the next level. It'd be interesting to see what else this applies to.
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