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Nidhoeggr
Joined: Dec 13, 2005 Posts: 178 Status: Offline |
These trinkets colors are not on yppedia yet i think: white/magenta Parrot feather:  light green/blue Handkerchief:  it's sorted behind lavender ---------------------------------------- Nidhoeggr Captain and Mascot of Silent Fools |
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Nidhoeggr
Joined: Dec 13, 2005 Posts: 178 Status: Offline |
This spiky coral is not yet on yppedia. The color is royal blue:  ---------------------------------------- Nidhoeggr Captain and Mascot of Silent Fools |
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Alfwyn
Joined: Nov 24, 2005 Posts: 974 Status: Offline |
I was confused. But anyway, do we have an idea how the special colors sort? Royal blue, wine, ice blue, sea green, spring green? ---------------------------------------- [Edit 2 times, last edit by Alfwyn at Jun 16, 2010 5:57:28 AM] |
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Belthazar451
Joined: Sep 17, 2007 Posts: 3561 Status: Offline |
The order is persimmon, royal blue, ice blue, spring green, wine, sea green. The fun part is that Yohoho Tools actually lists more colours between the ones we've seen. I posted a thread about it a while back but got literally no responses. ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by Belthazar451 at Jun 16, 2010 3:10:31 PM] |
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Fiddler
Joined: Mar 4, 2004 Posts: 4619 Status: Offline |
 Wine spiky coral ---------------------------------------- Orsino, Viridian ocean Forum-mute: your best friend
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Alfwyn
Joined: Nov 24, 2005 Posts: 974 Status: Offline |
Hm, looks like more fun with restructuring/reordering images.
Where do night blue and chocolate come in that order? |
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Niklas2311
Joined: Apr 9, 2007 Posts: 397 Status: Offline |
 The wine trinkets are missing :) Chote ---------------------------------------- Freunde sind Menschen, die Deine Vergangenheit akzeptieren, Dich in der Gegenwart mögen, und in der Zukunft zu Dir stehen. |
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Scenepainter
Joined: Nov 14, 2010 Posts: 256 Status: Offline |
What you refer to as "inventory order" seems to coincide with the internal ordering of the colorizations. Here's an extract from the colordefs.dat file (the parameter, you are interested in is "colorId. Some colors may have different internal names, e.g. "tan" is internally called "brown"):
Hope that helps. Yell if you want the whole thing. Edit: No Spoilers ---------------------------------------- Download ScenePainter ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by Fiddler at Nov 28, 2010 6:19:16 PM] |
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Alfwyn
Joined: Nov 24, 2005 Posts: 974 Status: Offline |
Thanks. That would make it "persimmon, royal blue, ice blue, spring green, banana, wine, chocolate, sea green, night blue", if I'm not mistaken. Interestingly Image:Colour Starfish.png has night blue and chocolate the other way round. The plan would be to make it "royal blue, wine, chocolate, night blue" then I guess (and reorder them again when any ice blue, spring green, banana or sea green trinkets turn up). |
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Scenepainter
Joined: Nov 14, 2010 Posts: 256 Status: Offline |
Well, I don't know about yppedia trinket ordering, so to be sure, I compared textile_p and textile_s. Both palettes are the same. Here's textile_p (sorted) for comparison:
Edit: No spoilers ---------------------------------------- Download ScenePainter ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by Fiddler at Nov 28, 2010 6:19:55 PM] |
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Alfwyn
Joined: Nov 24, 2005 Posts: 974 Status: Offline |
The good news is that chocolate stays where it is. Wine is plucked into the gap left for night blue right now. And night blue will be moved to the end, but it has only 20 charts that use it actively. So basically only the HS trinket charts have to be changed, for other trinkets we can replace the night blue placeholder with wine at any time we update the chart for some reason. I plan to make that change (and add the wine beachcomber trinkets) this Sunday if there's no protesting. |
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Sagacious
Joined: Mar 6, 2006 Posts: 4798 Status: Offline |
When I was making/updating those trinket images, I was following order of release rather than inventory order =) ---------------------------------------- Cerulean & Meridian - Icemeister Emerald & Obsidian - incognito! #TeamPurple |
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Fiddler
Joined: Mar 4, 2004 Posts: 4619 Status: Offline |
I'm still of the opinion that we should create the charts with spaces for all the known colors, leaving a gap (or better, a giant red X) if there's no existing example, to simplify adding in colors in the future. The single-color trinkets all use a template to display the available options now so it shouldn't be too difficult to skip over the gaps left by non-existent colors. And as for the giant two-color trinket grids I think we could either live with a giant mess of X's indicating non-valid colors, or create a smaller grid that skips over the gaps for only for display on the trinket article. ---------------------------------------- Orsino, Viridian ocean Forum-mute: your best friend
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Sagacious
Joined: Mar 6, 2006 Posts: 4798 Status: Offline |
Fiddler's idea makes a lot of sense, and is something I was going to bring up a while ago when I was fiddling with the trinket images. With the script I'm playing with (sample output can be seen here - it takes a bit of time to render, as it's meant to be used locally) you can specify which colour(s) you wish to exclude from the array, and it currently substitutes them with an X. I excluded a bunch of colours to make the preview load a bit quicker. ---------------------------------------- Cerulean & Meridian - Icemeister Emerald & Obsidian - incognito! #TeamPurple |
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Alfwyn
Joined: Nov 24, 2005 Posts: 974 Status: Offline |
I take that to mean that we should leave a gap for ice blue, spring green, banana and sea green too. If we do that, we should probably go by colorId, leaving a named gap for known colors and a unnamed gap for undisclosed ones. Otherwise we would need to change all the charts everytime a new color in between is introduced instead of everytime a color becomes newly available for trinkets - might not be such a big gain. But seeing there is still a need for discussion, I will leave the HS trinkets alone for now. The wine beachcomber trinkets can still be put into the gap left for night blue, as currently we have no trinket using both of those colors. This won't change the size of the chart images and therefore doesn't introduce weird looking trinkets for people using old, cached images. It also doesn't introduce any real additional work should we decide to add additional gaps. The temporary "aliasing" of wine and night blue is just something that might bite us in the future, so we should resolve it one way or the other soon. |
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Fiddler
Joined: Mar 4, 2004 Posts: 4619 Status: Offline |
That's what I meant, yeah. Create the grids (or strips for single color trinkets) with all the colors in proper inventory sort order and leave a big X for any trinkets that aren't known to exist. For the undisclosed colors (29, 36, and 37) we should just leave an unlabeled blank. ---------------------------------------- Orsino, Viridian ocean Forum-mute: your best friend
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Barrister
Joined: Dec 2, 2003 Posts: 1997 Status: Offline |
This sounds reasonable to me. It creates a bunch of work today, but will make things easier in the long run. ---------------------------------------- Barrister - YPPedia Administrator - Looterati |
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Sagacious
Joined: Mar 6, 2006 Posts: 4798 Status: Offline |
Well it would require adjustment to templates - regarding offsets - but in terms of grid generation - I can currently press butan, get grid. ---------------------------------------- Cerulean & Meridian - Icemeister Emerald & Obsidian - incognito! #TeamPurple |
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Nickipin
Joined: Mar 20, 2009 Posts: 148 Status: Offline |
nautilus shell ice blue  ---------------------------------------- Nickipin - Opal |
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moyi
Joined: Sep 1, 2004 Posts: 45 Status: Offline |
ice blue clam and spiky corals  ---------------------------------------- Moyi from Viridian Avatar made with ScenePainter |
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Alfwyn
Joined: Nov 24, 2005 Posts: 974 Status: Offline |
Oh, nice. Together with the following, the set of ice blue trinkets is probably complete then:  Currently the method used to display trinkets on YPPedia doesn't really support ice blue. We are currently in the process to change that, but it will take a bit till they can be displayed. Of course just specifying the template with a color of "ice blue" makes sure it will display correctly once the changes are implemented. |
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Nickipin
Joined: Mar 20, 2009 Posts: 148 Status: Offline |
  ---------------------------------------- Nickipin - Opal |
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Alfwyn
Joined: Nov 24, 2005 Posts: 974 Status: Offline |
Just so we don't forget when making the new chart, I'll post the persimmon winter sphere again:  |
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Barney25
Joined: Nov 5, 2007 Posts: 890 Status: Offline |
Couple feathers that haven't been added yet (ignore the others):  ---------------------------------------- Barney SO of "Silver Dreams" Hunter Ocean <><
Avatar by Texasborn <3 |
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Stephensam
Joined: Aug 20, 2005 Posts: 4085 Status: Offline |
New color starfish with this months' wrapped presents: Spring Green  ---------------------------------------- Stevensam -Cobalt Native, founder and host of The PoE is Right. Creator of Lime Day. |
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Alfwyn
Joined: Nov 24, 2005 Posts: 974 Status: Offline |
more of them:  |
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Maitredodo
Joined: Jun 12, 2007 Posts: 730 Status: Offline |
Banana Clam shell :  ---------------------------------------- Masterdodo on Opal/Emerald Atlantis, what else? ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by Maitredodo at May 16, 2011 8:53:16 AM] |
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Belthazar451
Joined: Sep 17, 2007 Posts: 3561 Status: Offline |
We're actually only missing the banana spiky coral, if you happen to have that. =) |
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Nidhoeggr
Joined: Dec 13, 2005 Posts: 178 Status: Offline |
There it is:  ---------------------------------------- Nidhoeggr Captain and Mascot of Silent Fools |
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Notsizzly
Joined: Mar 29, 2010 Posts: 2938 Status: Offline |
I do not know if you still collect pics of missing trinkets in wiki, or if you use another method to produce the color charts - and this image probably is not good enough - but I decided to post and ask about it. I believe it's light green signet ring.  This is not my trinket, so if you indeed still do collect these pics, I can try and ask the pirate holding this to give it to me to take a screenshot when it's in my inventory. ---------------------------------------- ~ Sizzly of Emerald ~ Avatar by Aerecura <3 |
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