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SirCarl67
Joined: Feb 5, 2006 Posts: 2128 Status: Offline |
Every monthly trophy so far has required only participation in a variety of puzzles. A lot of pirates, particularly the lower skilled ones, like to collects these trophies so they could be used to encourage those who havn't bothered learning how to do the puzzles well to learn the basics. I am still thinking the puzzles should be within the range of everybody, even if the habitual straight ables need to ask / look up YPPedia for some tips. Examples might be: Produce a duty report of good or better for 3 different piracy puzzles Provide at least skilled level labor while doing 3 different crafting puzzles Beat a bot in rumble, swordfight and drinking ---------------------------------------- Apollo tells ye "If you're ok for me to do one [bake-off], I'll go with that." |
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sweetnessc
Joined: Nov 10, 2004 Posts: 16105 Status: Offline |
I believe the larger goal of these seals was to encourage people to participate, and it seems like they are having that effect. I do agree with giving people incentives to increase their skill levels, but I'd rather not see them conflated with inducements to participate. I see participation as a pre-condition to betterment; getting them out there gives them the chance to start doing better. Looking at your proposed triggers, for instance, we've had players in our crew from time to time that took two months to be able to get a good in each of the duty puzzles. I know there was an intention to add in trophies for skill levels instead of having them mostly for experience, it might be better to accelerate that instead. Or to add other benefits for 'learning stuff' instead of 'doing stuff'. ---------------------------------------- My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. ~ Jack Layton Sublime is shame. |
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krnasaur
Joined: Feb 20, 2009 Posts: 864 Status: Offline |
If you remember a while back one of the seals required people todo 3 of the 4 expeditions. TH/dig/SMH/CI. This required people to have to either go on a SMH or a CI to get the seal. Alot of people were upset because they were not good enough and complained that the seals should be for everyone. I agree. Its one thing that it is getting the newer pirates out pillaging more, I think thats enough, requiring good or better etc seems silly ---------------------------------------- Weiner/Weinz lotsofgoats says
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EgoavilJ
Joined: Jan 5, 2008 Posts: 159 Status: Offline |
Can we just get rid of them? They are extremely pointless, like the experience trophies... ---------------------------------------- ~Nayfin~ -Lord of United We Stand on Viridian Ocean. -Prince of Adrenaline on Malachite Ocean.
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Roleni
Joined: Aug 28, 2003 Posts: 4171 Status: Offline |
Trophies are, as a general rule, participation rewards. A good enough player will hit all the token trophies, for example, given enough time - just a better player will hit them faster. I think all your examples fall in line with that, to be honest - just more skilled players will get them with less participation. :P ---------------------------------------- Thalatta & others Hera tells ye, "You got me so flustered by the spanking, I booched my chat response!" Hera tells ye, "Purple is the most awesome colour ever!" |
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Lagrange99
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I think they're fun and encourage folks (even experienced players) to try things. If you don't like them, I suggest you ignore them, like I do for trophies that I don't care about. On the main topic, I think participation is appropriate for these trophies. I shudder to think of a Must get Ex in Distilling seal. ---------------------------------------- Hybirius on Hunter http://hunter.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Hybirius ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by Lagrange99 at Jun 4, 2010 12:33:20 PM] |
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false_dmitri
Joined: Feb 18, 2007 Posts: 3073 Status: Offline |
They're fine the way they are (although spammy). Lots better for the game than experience trophies. They're usually easy to complete within a month without grinding, and they encourage people to try the whole game. No point locking anyone out of these participation trophies with performance requirements. ---------------------------------------- On hiatus. :( |
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BobJanova
Joined: Oct 16, 2007 Posts: 5008 Status: Offline |
I think it's better that everyone can get them if they want to.
They won't without skill (i.e. 'good enough' is limiting them by skill), the Pillars are awarded for tokens scored at Incredible. Not to mention Ultimate/No. 1 trophies ... obviously some trophies are skill based. But I do agree that seals probably shouldn't be. ---------------------------------------- Bobjanova on Viridian and Malachite Shops and stalls with fair and profitable wages for all: Jubilee, Napi, Chelydra Stripped/Barely Dressed (Malachite) Phantasm/Reign of Chaos (Viridian) |
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