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Here's the list of paint requirements for all ships, buildings, and stalls.

Sloop: 66 units
Crow's Nest 2
Main Deck 29/ 35
Main Hold -- N/A --

Cutter: 79 units
Crow's Nest 2
Main Deck 34/ 43
Main Hold -- N/A --

Merchant Brig: 182 units
Aft Hold -- N/A --
Cabin 11
Crow's Nest Aft 2
Crow's Nest Main 2/ 2
Main Deck 74/ 91
Main Hold -- N/A --

War Brig: 249 units
Cabin 11/ 19
Fore Crow's Nest 2/ 2
Galley 1
Main Crow's Nest 2/ 2
Main Deck 89/112
Roundhouse 7

Merchant Galleon: 324 units
Aft Crow's Nest 2
Cabin 25
Captain's Quarters 8/ 12
Fore Crow's Nest 2
Galley 1/ 1
Main Crow's Nest 2/ 2
Main Deck 119/150

War Frigate: 303 units
Aft Crow's Nest 2
Cabin 23
Captain's Quarters 7/ 9
Fore Crow's Nest 2
Galley 2/ 8
Main Crow's Nest 2/ 2
Main Deck 105/141

Grand Frigate: 485 units
Aft Cabin Port -- N/A --
Aft Cabin Starboard 1
Captains Cabin 9/ 13
Crow's Nest Aft 2/ 2
Crow's Nest Fore 2/ 2
Crow's Nest Main 2/ 2
Fore Cabin 1/ 17
Main Deck 185/245
Main Hold Back 1
Main Hold Front 1

Banks
Left-facing -- N/A --
Right-facing -- N/A --
Left-facing upgraded -- N/A --
Right-facing upgraded -- N/A --

Inns
Left-facing
Main room -- N/A --
Back room -- N/A --
Right-facing
Main room -- N/A --
Back room -- N/A --
Left-facing upgraded
Main room -- N/A --
Back room -- N/A --
Right-facing upgraded
Main room -- N/A --
Back room -- N/A --

Tailors
Small stall 3 / 3
Medium stall 3 / 3
Deluxe stall 8 / 10
Left-facing shop 9 / 10
Right-facing shop 9 / 11
Left-facing upgraded shop
Main room 5 / 18
Upstairs 3 / 18
Right-facing upgraded shop
Main room 13 / 22
Upstairs 15 / 23
Left-facing bazaar -- N/A --
Right-facing bazaar -- N/A --
Left-facing upgraded bazaar -- N/A --
Right-facing upgraded bazaar -- N/A --

Iron Mongers
Small stall 3 / 3
Medium stall -- N/A --
Deluxe stall 4 / 4
Left-facing shop 7 / 11
Right-facing shop 13
Left-facing upgraded shop 11
Right-facing upgraded shop 8 / 10
Left-facing bazaar -- N/A --
Right-facing bazaar -- N/A --
Left-facing upgraded bazaar -- N/A --
Right-facing upgraded bazaar -- N/A --

Shipyards
Small stall -- N/A --
Medium stall 2 (not visible)
Deluxe stall -- N/A --
Left-facing shop -- N/A --
Right-facing shop 2 / 2
Left-facing upgraded shop
Main room 12 / 13
Back room 1
Upstairs 11 / 14
Right-facing upgraded shop
Main room 13 / 15
Back room 1 / 5 / 1
Upstairs 3 / 15
Left-facing bazaar -- N/A --
Right-facing bazaar -- N/A --
Left-facing upgraded bazaar -- N/A --
Right-facing upgraded bazaar -- N/A --

Distilleries
Small stall 2 / 2
Medium stall 6 / 3
Deluxe stall 8 / 9
Left-facing shop 8 / 12
Right-facing shop 8 / 12
Left-facing upgraded shop
Main room 1 / 15
Upstairs 3 / 15
Right-facing upgraded shop
Main room 9 / 11
Upstairs 11 / 13
Left-facing bazaar -- N/A --
Right-facing bazaar -- N/A --
Left-facing upgraded bazaar -- N/A --
Right-facing upgraded bazaar -- N/A --

Weaveries
Small stall 2 / 2
Medium stall 8 / 9
Deluxe stall 8 / 9
Left-facing shop 7 / 10
Right-facing shop 6 / 9
Left-facing upgraded shop
Main room 7 / 10
Back room 7 / 10
Right-facing upgraded shop
Main room 9
Back room 7 / 11
Left-facing bazaar -- N/A --
Right-facing bazaar -- N/A --
Left-facing upgraded bazaar -- N/A --
Right-facing upgraded bazaar -- N/A --

Apothecaries
Small stall 3
Medium stall 4
Deluxe stall 4 / 1
Left-facing shop 8 / 4
Right-facing shop 8 / 4
Left-facing upgraded shop 10 / 10
Right-facing upgraded shop 11 / 11
Left-facing bazaar -- N/A --
Right-facing bazaar -- N/A --
Left-facing upgraded bazaar -- N/A --
Right-facing upgraded bazaar -- N/A --

Estate Agents
Left-facing 11
Right-facing 8 / 10
Left-facing upgraded 10 / 13
Right-facing upgraded 10 / 12

Markets
Left-facing -- N/A --
Right-facing -- N/A --
Left-facing upgraded -- N/A --
Right-facing upgraded -- N/A --

Forts
Left-facing
Main room -- N/A --
Upstairs -- N/A --
Right-facing
Main room -- N/A --
Upstairs 1

Palaces
Left-facing
Entry hall 5
Downstairs office 3
Portrait room 9 / 11
Throne room 2 / 8
Upstairs foyer 20 / 23
Upstairs office 8 / 10
Left bedroom 8 / 10
Right bedroom 8 / 10
Bar room 9 / 11
Right-facing
Entry hall 3
Downstairs office 3
Portrait room 6
Throne room 10 / 17
Upstairs foyer 3 / 6
Upstairs office 16
Left bedroom 8 / 10
Right bedroom 8 / 10
Bar room 11
Left-facing upgraded
Entry hall 21
Downstairs office 11 / 14
Downstairs storage 11 / 14
Throne room 13 / 44
Upstairs foyer 27 / 39
Trophy room 12
Bedroom 9 / 10
Right-facing upgraded
Entry hall 5 / 5 / 15 / 20
Downstairs office 14 / 16
Storage room 19
Throne room 10 / 42
Upstairs foyer 2 / 68
Trophy room 11
Bedroom 10 / 13

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Here's what I've got so far:

             Walls/Trim
Shipyard: (norm) 2/2
Shipyard: (fine)12/13
Tailor: (sml) 3/3
Tailor: (med) 3/3
Tailor: (delux) 8/10
Tailor: (norm) 9/11
Tailor: (fine) 5/18 (top) 3/18
Weavery: (sml) 2/2
Weavery: (med) 3/3
Weavery: (delux) 8/9
Weavery: (norm) 6/9
Weavery: (fine) 7/10 (rear) 7/10
Smithy: (norm)
Smithy: (fine) 8/10
Realtor: (norm) 8/10
Realtor: (fine) 10/13
Distill: (sml) 2/2
Distill: (med) 3/3
Distill: (delux) 8/9
Distill: (fine) 1/15 (top) 2-3/15
Apoth: (med) N/A


Edited to include Wildlilly's info.
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Tailor (fine): 5/18; top: 3/18
Realtor (fine): 10/13
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If you paint a small shop and then upgrade it does, the paint job stay the same once it is upgraded?
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If you paint a small shop and then upgrade it does, the paint job stay the same once it is upgraded?

No. New construction.
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Could there be some kind of selection system when buying paints that, instead of only have the option of buying a certain number of units, you could just select what you're painting, and the correct volume of paint is automatically quoted? For instance, you could select "Ship", "Sloop", then select your 'primary' and 'secondary' colours (or rail and hull, or whatever terminology used), and the correct volume of units are quoted for. Similarly you could select "Shop" or "Stall", giving the size options respectively.

Alternately you could also simply select how many units of paint you want, if you're just trying to buy some paint for inventory, or whatever.

It would be a bit more user-friendly that way, I think.
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Can a nonshop owner paint a ship? If so how?


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Can a nonshop owner paint a ship? If so how?


I don't own a shop, but I could paint all of my ships. I just couldn't paint anybody elses ship.
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70 blood for a black/black Grand Frigate. Who will get it first?
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Your arithmetic needs help. And why would anyone want a black grand frigate, anyway?
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I would

But I will get it in that art contest
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Your arithmetic needs help. And why would anyone want a black grand frigate, anyway?


Honestly I have no clue how much blood it requires for 7 units of black paint. I figured it'd be one, because blood is rather rare.
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How exactly do you plan to make precisely 7 black paint? Make a batch and toss out the other 5?

I've got the paint requirements for all the stall types.

Small distillery: 2 walls, 2 trim
Medium distillery: 3 walls, 3 trim
Deluxe distillery: 8 walls, 9 trim
Small iron monger: 3 walls, 3 trim
Medium iron monger: unpaintable
Deluxe iron monger: 4 walls, 4 trim
Small weavery: 2 walls, 2 trim
Medium weavery: 3 walls, 3 trim
Deluxe weavery: 8 walls, 9 trim
Small shipyard: unpaintable
Medium shipyard: 2 sideboard
Deluxe shipyard: unpaintable
Small apothecary: unpaintable
Medium apothecary: unpaintable
Deluxe apothecary: unpaintable
Small tailor: 3 walls, 3 trim
Medium tailor: 3 walls, 3 trim
Deluxe tailor: 8 walls, 10 trim
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Quizzical wrote: 
How exactly do you plan to make precisely 7 black paint? Make a batch and toss out the other 5?


:p 7/12 of one unit of Kracken's Blood ;) Seriously though, I think people will have no problem selling off extra paint, or accumulating it for the next thing they wish to paint.
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Bah...

During the test I thought I saw green paint came in units of 7. Perhaps I saw it wrong.

Quite simply, since you actually paid attention to how much paint is produced from X units of whatever (and I really didn't bother to note it) you could just supply the correct information instead of acting like your additional knowledge somehow makes you superior.
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Sarterixa wrote: 
Bah...

During the test I thought I saw green paint came in units of 7. Perhaps I saw it wrong.

Quite simply, since you actually paid attention to how much paint is produced from X units of whatever (and I really didn't bother to note it) you could just supply the correct information instead of acting like your additional knowledge somehow makes you superior.


Enamel comes out in 7s, paint comes out in 12s :)

http://www.elemental.pp-nest.net/economy.html
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Should that economy post at elemental show goods entering/leaving the economy as well as poe entering/leaving the economy? I'm thinking that a beginner might be confused by showing production (ships, balls, rum, clothing, swords, etc) as money leaving the economy; while true (sales tax), they primarily redistribute money and remove goods.

I found the section on paint a little hard to understand. Maybe if the hemp oil could always go into the same column?

Do WF's and GF's really take the same amount of paint? Are MG's really that much more paint? (The only ship with every section paintable?)

Maybe people ought to be doing black/black MG calculations/contests instead :-).

EDIT: That chart at elemental disagrees with the post earlier in this thread.
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can you post the prices here to missed the test thing and i wanted to know
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AquaDrake wrote: 
Should that economy post at elemental show goods entering/leaving the economy as well as poe entering/leaving the economy? I'm thinking that a beginner might be confused by showing production (ships, balls, rum, clothing, swords, etc) as money leaving the economy; while true (sales tax), they primarily redistribute money and remove goods.

I found the section on paint a little hard to understand. Maybe if the hemp oil could always go into the same column?

Do WF's and GF's really take the same amount of paint? Are MG's really that much more paint? (The only ship with every section paintable?)

Maybe people ought to be doing black/black MG calculations/contests instead :-).

EDIT: That chart at elemental disagrees with the post earlier in this thread.


The painting chart is probably inaccurate. There's a reason this page isn't publicly linked ;) The recipie information, which is what was requested, was correct. (until the devs changed the paintbrush recipie)
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Trying to understand the chart here...is the first number for rails or is the first number for the side boards? I would think the bigger number would be for the sideboards, but I remember seeing it reversed someplace else.
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Oh I love the goods chart! Just what I've been looking for!

One thing, though, I believe the paintbrush now requires Old Man's Beard...

Other than that, thank you so much!
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So I'm unsure about the tailor numbers. To paint Terran Wear it is
Walls 13 Trim 22
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GageKronos wrote: 
Trying to understand the chart here...is the first number for rails or is the first number for the side boards? I would think the bigger number would be for the sideboards, but I remember seeing it reversed someplace else.


It's top to bottom in the menu. So, it's usually (always?) sideboard/railings/trim. Of course, some areas are trim-only, or walls-only, etc.
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By the way, before the big patch they made the large alchemy stall paintable. It's Walls: 4 paint (for the right wall only) and Trim: 1 paint (for the tiny patch about the totem.)
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Can a nonshop owner paint a ship? If so how?


You must be a manager. If you are, just click on your paintbrush.
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Who's selling paint the stripper? I just love natural wood.

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Who's selling paint the stripper? I just love natural wood.

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You're thinking Tan Paint.
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The economy chart ought to be correct, and showing gaps where I am missing information on shoppe painting.
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Who's selling paint the stripper? I just love natural wood.

Seasnake


You're thinking Tan Paint.


Thanks!

The war brig may well get a good dose of tan paint then, unless I can find a nice match for it's white rails.

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Small apothecary: unpaintable


You can paint 1 wall in a small apoth stall. It was either 2 or 3 units, I forget.
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