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Just a suggestion, but maybe we should have these abbrevations.

ATM = At the moment

NVM = Nevermind

D/C = Disconnected

OOB = Out of battle

PTB = Permission to board?

HI = Ahoy!

~ = Fair Winds

HELL = Heck


Maybe more? Suggestions? Thoughts?


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Since I am a proper english freak, when you add d/c and atm it would be a good idea to make them capital.


Example:

Chimeravirus says, "atm."



What really shows up is.

Chimeravirus says, "A t the moment.
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Aye, I find it annoying writing "gl" and it coming up Deeogee says " good luck "

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What if you want to abbriviate flags/crews with the abbriviate of ATM. ATM (Astute Tenticale Mariners) is a flag on sage. Or what would happen is "Be right back, I need to take a trip to the At the moment machine." Also, i'm sure there is a flag called ~ joke, duh


Hell to Heck might make this game more childish. You can say these words for a reason. We're not babies.


HL for hold on? That could be useful.
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Though I like the idea of capitalization, it would have to be text sensitive to a certain extent.

Satin says, " I'm rather busy At the moment."

See?
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ATM = Automated Teller Machine.
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Maybe when you type atm it comes up as "at the moment" and when you type Atm it comes "At the moment."
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Maybe when you type atm it comes up as "at the moment" and when you type Atm it comes "At the moment."


Sounds good, along with Good luck ( Gl ) and good luck ( gl )

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~ = Fair Winds


Since when does ~ = fair winds?
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~ = Fair Winds


Since when does ~ = fair winds?


It doesn't, but '~' always reminds me of wind, dun ask kk?

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The ~ I would assume represents wind? See how it is wavy?
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Sniped XD!
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You beat me by 8 seconds to saying that.

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XD!



I have some more ideas =O.


OM - Ocean Master
Dev - Developer
Y!PP - Yohoho Puzzle Pirates or just Puzzle Pirates
PP - Puzzle Pirates
Gp - Ahoy! I am a new player who has just came from Runescape!
Haxxor - # 3 |_ |_ 0, 1 4|\/| 4 #4><><0|2 4|\||) / 0|2 1 +#1|\||< 1 4|\/| (00|_ \/\/#3|\| 1 +4|_|< |_1|<3 4|\| 1[)10+.


(Hello, I am a hacker and/or I think I am cool when I talk like an idiot.)
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Antix says, "Nice one"
Expel says, "Super effective"

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XD!



I have some more ideas =O.


OM - Ocean Master
Dev - Developer
Y!PP - Yohoho Puzzle Pirates or just Puzzle Pirates
PP - Puzzle Pirates
Gp - Ahoy! I am a new player who has just came from Runescape!
Haxxor - # 3 |_ |_ 0, 1 4|\/| 4 #4><><0|2 4|\||) / 0|2 1 +#1|\||< 1 4|\/| (00|_ \/\/#3|\| 1 +4|_|< |_1|<3 4|\| 1[)10+.

(Hello, I am a hacker and/or I think I am cool when I talk like an idiot.)



No no no... Haxxor should be "/-\|_|_ \|/[]|_||? |-]/-\5[- /-\|?[- |-][-|_[][\](?, -|-[] |_|5".


Duh.
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XD!



I have some more ideas =O.


OM - Ocean Master
Dev - Developer
Y!PP - Yohoho Puzzle Pirates or just Puzzle Pirates
PP - Puzzle Pirates
Gp - Ahoy! I am a new player who has just came from Runescape!
Haxxor - # 3 |_ |_ 0, 1 4|\/| 4 #4><><0|2 4|\||) / 0|2 1 +#1|\||< 1 4|\/| (00|_ \/\/#3|\| 1 +4|_|< |_1|<3 4|\| 1[)10+.

(Hello, I am a hacker and/or I think I am cool when I talk like an idiot.)



No no no... Haxxor should be "/-\|_|_ \|/[]|_||? |-]/-\5[- /-\|?[- |-][-|_[][\](?, -|-[] |_|5".


Duh.


Those two posts just made me willing to bet that this is going to be booted into shore leave. Hmph. :P
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And swiftly back on topic ..

How about lpr (little pirates room)(bathroom)
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Somebody set up us the boomy :(

Case sensitivity is for jerks. Besides, if you're going to be

 
ATM = At the moment

I could see this one making it in, but flag acronyms are popular...
 
PTB = Permission to board?

But then Ponytailboy will get so confused...
 
HI = Ahoy!

You're getting excessive here.
 
~ = Fair Winds

Shortkeys are fun, but you may as well make it FW.
 
HELL = Heck

Absolutely not.
 
dun ask kk?

What do we filter "kk" into? Maybe kekekekekeke?
 
OM - Ocean Master
Dev - Developer
Y!PP - Yohoho Puzzle Pirates or just Puzzle Pirates
PP - Puzzle Pirates

You know, abbreviation filters aren't always a staple. Piratifying is one thing, but automatically filtering things that people probably won't pronounce out loud anyway...

...I mean, I tend to say "OM" and not "Ocean Master".
Also, some of these are a little overboard, like filtering "Y!PP", especially with the exclamation point in there.

I didn't see anyone suggest poe or POE or PoE filtering to Pieces of Eight.
 
Gp - Ahoy! I am a new player who has just came from Runescape!

Among countless other games...


LSM? Levitating Spaghetti Monster loves you
MP?
CC?
SO?
CO?
XO?
FO?

biamgihthtlpratrttktgaddasmsoifmy - "back in a minute guys, i have to hit the little pirates room and then run to the kitchen to grab a drink, don't anybody steal my station or i'll scuppering murder you"

oic? oh wait. do you filter that to "officer in charge", "officer in command", or "oh i see"?
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The ones I disagree with (the rest seem reasonable to me):

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ATM = At the moment


No thanks; there's too many other things that ATM mean.

 
OOB = Out of battle


Same deal with OOB.

 
HI = Ahoy!


Uh.... no.

 
~ = Fair Winds


I don't quite understand this one.

 
HELL = Heck


Anybody offended by the word "hell" should really think about reevaluating their principles.

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But really, there has to be a line drawn somewhere, when enough mogrifications are enough...
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That's the ones in the OP i mean. I disagree with all the rest of the ones in this thread, for the same reasons as PogoBeta.
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Oh by the way guys, wrt Gl vs gl vs ATM vs aTM vs Atm vs aTm (from here):

Peghead wrote: 
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sdgyhuafatg = So don't get your hopes up as far as that goes.
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HELL = Heck


Half Circle From Heck
Heck Fire For Hire
Heck's Outcasts
Rudder Heck
Bloody Heck (ok, I admit, that's kinda cool)
Heaven Nor Heck
Heck from Above
The Heck-Born Blades
Heck's Avengers
Heck in a Handbasket
Heck's Wrath
Everlasting Heck
Heck's Warriors
Friggin Heck (that's pretty funny too)
Heck's Temptation
Demons from Heck
Pillagers from Heck
Heck's Messiahs
Heck's Avengers


Yeah, no. Methinks filtering Hell to Heck adversely effects too many crews and flags.
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I don't understand why we need more transmogrifications. Especially as these don't follow the pattern of the previous ones.

The ones we have so far take non-piratey chatspeak (OMG) and change it to something piratey (Billions of Blistering Blue Barnacles!). If you're going to add others to the list, they should at least fit the pattern. And honestly, I don't see much use for adding any of these.
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What about a way to get custom word replacements on the client side (kinda like aliases in MUDs)? Introduce a dialog where you enter the word (case-insensitive) you're looking to replace and the word you want to replace it with, then add it to a list stored in your user options. Also introduce a way to look at your current list and delete or modify existing entries.
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Leif wrote: 
I don't understand why we need more transmogrifications. Especially as these don't follow the pattern of the previous ones.

The ones we have so far take non-piratey chatspeak (OMG) and change it to something piratey (Billions of Blistering Blue Barnacles!). If you're going to add others to the list, they should at least fit the pattern. And honestly, I don't see much use for adding any of these.

Agreed. Though, I'd like to add that before any more additions are made, the chat function needs to be changed so that mog's can be enabled/disabled.

I type things the way I type them because that's how I mean them. If I'm chatting with someone, and I say "ty", I don't mean "thank ye", I mean "ty". The difference is that, to me, "thank ye"/"thank you" is a bit more personal than "ty". </rant>

Also, since "tanonev" hit "Submit" before I did. Yes, customized mog's would be nice, but they'd only apply to you, not to others.
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ass -> donkey
arse -> rumplestiltskin

nook(ie) -> hideaway

pimple -> rare skin condition
pimp(s/in/ing/...) -> limp

fag -> cigarette
shag -> cigar
heavy shag -> presidential cigar

rum/beer/wine/pastis/armagnac/drink/... -> closed container

nut -> oyster
hazelnut -> filbert
walnut -> bricklayer
pecan -> urinal

testicle -> frozen exam
testes -> facile exam
scrotum -> shopping bag
areola -> northern lights

fanny -> hill
uranus -> Qo'noS

ring -> Isildur's Bane
ringsting -> Maegnas
ringtone -> Crazy Frog

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Agreed. Though, I'd like to add that before any more additions are made, the chat function needs to be changed so that mog's can be enabled/disabled.


Mogrifications happen on the server side, by the time the chat text is sent to your client it's already been transformed. Assuming an option like this -was- implemented, it would be on the sender's end I'd imagine (that's how you describe it). I don't like that at all. While you're intentions might be good, I don't want to see a bunch of random nubs who turn that option off saying "lol omg ty" all over the place.

 
I type things the way I type them because that's how I mean them. If I'm chatting with someone, and I say "ty", I don't mean "thank ye", I mean "ty". The difference is that, to me, "thank ye"/"thank you" is a bit more personal than "ty".


To me, "thank you" is personal and "thank ye" is not -- because I know that nobody actually types "thank ye" (or rarely), it's just because they typed "ty". I read "thank ye" as "ty" and "thank you" as something personal, much like I read "good game" as a quick "gg" but "good match" as something personal. The latter was actually typed with thought behind it.
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I was thinking more of the client taking all incoming messages and mogging them before displaying them on the screen. That way, if you want an ultra-conservative filter, you can do so without anyone being any the wiser. Ditto for if you feel more comfortable reading chatspeak.

Oh, and as an implementation detail: I'm guessing a message received from the server should be recorded as is in the chat logs before client-side mogs are applied.
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adramolek wrote: 
To me, "thank you" is personal and "thank ye" is not -- because I know that nobody actually types "thank ye" (or rarely), it's just because they typed "ty". I read "thank ye" as "ty" and "thank you" as something personal, much like I read "good game" as a quick "gg" but "good match" as something personal. The latter was actually typed with thought behind it.

But I know people that chat in pirate-speak. So I consider "thank ye" as though they typed it out, since that's the character they play. Have you considered that you think of "thank ye" the same as "ty" because that's what it's mog'd into? If it didn't mog, then ty != thank ye, on a sentimental (eh, or personal, or whatever) level nor in actual chat.
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I was thinking more of the client taking all incoming messages and mogging them before displaying them on the screen. That way, if you want an ultra-conservative filter, you can do so without anyone being any the wiser. Ditto for if you feel more comfortable reading chatspeak.

Oh, and as an implementation detail: I'm guessing a message received from the server should be recorded as is in the chat logs before client-side mogs are applied.


Receiver "client-side mogs" are the curse word filter. It would behave just like that. I guess if you got rid of the current mogrification filter entirely and then just put all those substitutions in the curse word filter instead, that could take care of that and do what you want. (Erm, I don't actually know that mogrifications are implemented server side btw, I just assumed that.)

But I strongly disagree with allowing the receiver to disable mogrifications just as much as I disagree with allowing the sender to do it. Sure you may feel that you should be able to see it whatever way you want but I disagree. One of the bigger reasons for subsituting the text in this way was to discourage this kind of annoying, obnoxious "dawdspeak" is it was called in the original thread. If a greenie comes to this game and sees that his chatspeak is being replaced with somewhat more proper language, then he will be discouraged from using chatspeak that is not covered by the filters. As evidence of this I point out the relative sanity of the language in this game. I say relative. But I think it's doing a good job.

If you are given the ability to see chat anyway you want, so is some random greenie. And if they disable it, there is nuthing discouraging dem from tawking liek tihs u no wut i mean rite? Bcoz ev1 theres no rewlz in place 2 let dem no that dis iz not wut we want 2 c in dis game.

I think YPP rises slightly above other online games in that it's players act relatively mature. I like that. Again "relatively" is the operative word here but I mean, do you really want to not discourage people from talking like 5 year olds in this game...?
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