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Is Banking really so bad?

I was wondering why everyone frowns upon Banking. It takes skill to be able to go up, bank, come back with lower and again, go higher. I mean, I banked once on a 200-2k table, and was spammed with people saying, "BANKER". "GREEDY". "NOOB". I see nothing wrong with banking, personally.

I'd like to hear your views on banking and WHY you think the way ye do.
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Re: Is Banking really so bad?

 
I was wondering why everyone frowns upon Banking. It takes skill to be able to go up, bank, come back with lower and again, go higher. I mean, I banked once on a 200-2k table, and was spammed with people saying, "BANKER". "GREEDY". "NOOB". I see nothing wrong with banking, personally.

I'd like to hear your views on banking and WHY you think the way ye do.


Bolded the important part. It takes enough skill to build up your stack, and instead of banking, keep winning and make it that much bigger.

If you're going to cash out, it's extremely inconsiderate to buy back in within a short time with a smaller amount. You're basically saying "o look i hav j00r p0ez and u cant have m back"

If you're going to cash out and buy in low, go to a different table. It's a good way to safeguard the money you've already won without basically insulting the other people at the table, and you won't have to endure their angry table chat and /tells .


Edit: I always point out, in poker threads, that I hardly ever touch the stuff, and when i do, it's at a table where I can buy in for 200. I also stay away from the 10 seat tables, but I don't know how much that affects the quality of my opponents.
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Re: Is Banking really so bad?

I see.

But, when I go up, first thing that happens Is, I lose It all. Just now I went 5k up then got rivered for 7k, losing It all, If I'd have banked, I'd have been safer. :P
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Re: Is Banking really so bad?

Banking is frowned upon because you take money away from the table and don't give people the ability to win it back. That's why people HATE bankers.
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Re: Is Banking really so bad?

Gee, people take banking way too serious and accuse someone all too quickly.

I bought in with 5k and went up to 45k, kept playing, went down to 35k. at this point a hearty wanted to give me clothes to age them but she had to log off so I cashed out and invited her to my house.

We did the trade and since I still owed someone 30k I put those into my chest, she logged off and me being bored again re-joined the table with the left over 5k. Suddenly I get bitched at and jumped by a certain player for 'cashin' I tried to explain the situation but it was worse than talking to a wall. -.- I mean I was at that table for 2 hours and won a good portion of those 35k within the first half hour.
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Re: Is Banking really so bad?

 
I see.

But, when I go up, first thing that happens Is, I lose It all. Just now I went 5k up then got rivered for 7k, losing It all, If I'd have banked, I'd have been safer. :P


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Re: Is Banking really so bad?

When you bank, you secure that extra bit of money. Then somebody pushes you all-in, but it isn't really all-in, now is it?
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Re: Is Banking really so bad?

 
Gee, people take banking way too serious and accuse someone all too quickly.

I bought in with 5k and went up to 45k, kept playing, went down to 35k. at this point a hearty wanted to give me clothes to age them but she had to log off so I cashed out and invited her to my house.

We did the trade and since I still owed someone 30k I put those into my chest, she logged off and me being bored again re-joined the table with the left over 5k. Suddenly I get bitched at and jumped by a certain player for 'cashin' I tried to explain the situation but it was worse than talking to a wall. -.- I mean I was at that table for 2 hours and won a good portion of those 35k within the first half hour.


Thanks, mate, for saying "a certain player," and keeping me annonymous, but I'll own up to it . . .

The banking is such an epidemic (from what I'm lead to believe, that's more so on Cobalt than on some of the other oceans) that it just drives a lot of us seriously up-the-wall. After I left that table, I went to another one, where one of the worst ratholers on the ocean (I won't name names, but let's just say his behavior wasn't a surprise, boy) was doing the buy at minimum/all-in/rathole sequence over and over. In his case, I called him on it and made a point of repeatedly taking his PoE until he gave it up and bought in at max. I was at a 200 no limit the other day and watched a chick cash out with 104K only to come back in with 2K saying "I want more PoE." (Fortunately in this case, the entire table jumped on her so she left.)

If my jumping on you today was a little over-the-top, it's basically that those of us who want a nice, serious game of poker with all appropriate rules of ettiquitte in force are fed up as all Hell and trying to put an end to it by educating/pushing the kids of the ocean to knock it off. It can be hard to tell the difference, sometimes, between one of those and a situation like the one you were describing.

We've all asked, practically begged, OOO to give us a table feature to disallow ratholing. Since they've refused, calling people on it, or trying within the game to punish them for it, is pretty much all we've got . . . . they have the ability to make the poker experience more pleasant and less confrontational for bankers and banker-haters alike if they'd give us such a feature.
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Re: Is Banking really so bad?

Mate but my point was, what I tried to tell you, I was on that table for 2 hours if not more, I don't check time during poker and I didn't win and run otherwise I would have been at the table for half an hour.

I reached my peak at 48k then lost till I was at 35k and my friend begged me to just 'frigging take the clothes' so she can log off. I told her in tells I want to get back up to 40k first OR reach 35k. The latter happened and I cashed, I'm sorry that I have to pay my debt of 30k back (yay for not being a scammer) so only had 5k to cash in with. By the way, I would have stopped playing once I would have went down to 30k anyway.

So don't shun me for cashing out ONCE ever since poker came out and cashing back in with 5k (not even 2k, no 5k), it's not fair.
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Re: Is Banking really so bad?

*nods sagely and continues to play the 20-200 PoE, 2-4 fixed limit tables only, no matter how many people tart about not being able to force large bids fast*

I'm going to steal your thread slightly to whine about poker too.

What is the point of sitting down to a 2-4 FIXED LIMIT table then whining about not being able to bet big. It's not like it's hidden or anything, it's fairly plainly written "2-4 fixed limit, 20-200 PoE buy in". If it annoys you so bleeding much playing on those tables then Rack OFF and play where you want to be playing and leave those tables for people who are still learning the game and want to have some assurance that some idiot isn't going to sit there and all in pre-flop every single bloody hand - regardless of whether they win or lose.

Oh, and on the problem of people "cashing" or "banking" Big deal. Learn to realise that once the hand is over and the PoE leaves the pot and lands in someone's stack it is no longer your PoE, it belongs to the pot winner and they don't have to EVER give you the chance to "win it back" this is what GAMBLING means friends.
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Re: Is Banking really so bad?

 
*nods sagely and continues to play the 20-200 PoE, 2-4 fixed limit tables only, no matter how many people tart about not being able to force large bids fast*

I'm going to steal your thread slightly to whine about poker too.

What is the point of sitting down to a 2-4 FIXED LIMIT table then whining about not being able to bet big. It's not like it's hidden or anything, it's fairly plainly written "2-4 fixed limit, 20-200 PoE buy in". If it annoys you so bleeding much playing on those tables then Rack OFF and play where you want to be playing and leave those tables for people who are still learning the game and want to have some assurance that some idiot isn't going to sit there and all in pre-flop every single bloody hand - regardless of whether they win or lose.

Oh, and on the problem of people "cashing" or "banking" Big deal. Learn to realise that once the hand is over and the PoE leaves the pot and lands in someone's stack it is no longer your PoE, it belongs to the pot winner and they don't have to EVER give you the chance to "win it back" this is what GAMBLING means friends.


Yeah, you need to go back and read the many, many, many other threads on this topic. It's got nothing to do with anyone expecting the chance to "win it back." Those of us who understand poker have explained it at least a dozen times already, I'm not going to do it again here.

Danyael - My previous post was intended as something of a mild apology. Not for my stance on ratholing, but the for the fact that I may have painted you with the same broad brush I use for the truly bad offenders. But I do have to point out - after going and taking care of that debt and finding yourself with 5K to play poker with, you did have a choice/option for doing so without ratholing. Play a different table . . . .
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Learn to realise that once the hand is over and the PoE leaves the pot and lands in someone's stack it is no longer your PoE, it belongs to the pot winner and they don't have to EVER give you the chance to "win it back" this is what GAMBLING means friends.

QFT. All that complaining and campaigning is annoying. There's nothing wrong with banking, period, and all the whining in the world won't change that. If you call it "ratholing" you just prove that you don't have any arguments and have to resort to some sort of name-calling instead. I have yet to see a single actual argument against banking that wasn't either "casinos do it, so OOO has to do it too" or a more or less obvious version of "you have to give people a chance to win their money back".

For the record, I don't do it myself because I know that it doesn't really give you an advantage. I just find it annoying that people get so worked up about something so perfectly ordinary.

Also, it seems people are mixing rather different issues. Someone buying in for the maximum and "banking" once they've doubled it is a completely different thing than someone repeatedly buying in for the minimum and going all in. The latter actually disturbs the game by forcing a certain style of play - not really one advantageous to the one who does it, but he doesn't have to pay much for it either. The way to curb that is to reduce the spread between minimum and maximum buy-in. You'd probably still get people doing it because they play at a table far below their financial means, but at least the others at the table would profit from it more.
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Re: Is Banking really so bad?

 

QFT. All that complaining and campaigning is annoying. There's nothing wrong with banking, period, and all the whining in the world won't change that.


Only place that allows it is PP so you can take your comments and shove em. Just cause you dont find anything wrong or annoying with it doesnt mean that it isnt. Banking is wrong, period! Not gonna bother repeating all reasons since it has been dealt with before, Ill just continue to raise the bankers blinds til he/she goes away.

PS It has absolutely nothing to do with opportunity to win back or whatever. Anybody is welcome to leave the table after they won, just dont buy in with a lower amount just after you have left.Ds
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Re: Is Banking really so bad?

 
*nods sagely and continues to play the 20-200 PoE, 2-4 fixed limit tables only, no matter how many people tart about not being able to force large bids fast*

I'm going to steal your thread slightly to whine about poker too.

What is the point of sitting down to a 2-4 FIXED LIMIT table then whining about not being able to bet big. It's not like it's hidden or anything, it's fairly plainly written "2-4 fixed limit, 20-200 PoE buy in". If it annoys you so bleeding much playing on those tables then Rack OFF and play where you want to be playing and leave those tables for people who are still learning the game and want to have some assurance that some idiot isn't going to sit there and all in pre-flop every single bloody hand - regardless of whether they win or lose.

Oh, and on the problem of people "cashing" or "banking" Big deal. Learn to realise that once the hand is over and the PoE leaves the pot and lands in someone's stack it is no longer your PoE, it belongs to the pot winner and they don't have to EVER give you the chance to "win it back" this is what GAMBLING means friends.


*Huggles you* YUS! Finally SOMEONE who understands this the right way.
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Re: Is Banking really so bad?

 
I was wondering why everyone frowns upon Banking. It takes skill to be able to go up, bank, come back with lower and again, go higher.

Actually, it takes very little skill to do this. It takes much more skill to keep building your pile, knowing when to bet and knowing when not to.

Your banking indicates that you have no confidence in your skill to keep you from losing. You're relying on luck to win, and banking to keep your lucky gains. Please learn to play better so you don't have to do this.
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I was wondering why everyone frowns upon Banking. It takes skill to be able to go up, bank, come back with lower and again, go higher.

Actually, it takes very little skill to do this. It takes much more skill to keep building your pile, knowing when to bet and knowing when not to.

Your banking indicates that you have no confidence in your skill to keep you from losing. You're relying on luck to win, and banking to keep your lucky gains.

If you can consistently win, that's quite definitley skill (and more than a little), not luck. It doesn't take all that much more skill to refrain from getting overconfident and taking risks that you shouldn't. A bigger stack means you can win bigger pots, but also that you'll get into bigger pots that you should abandon at some point.
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Re: Is Banking really so bad?

A lot of people can take offense to banking because you are not really giving the other person a chance to make their money back. I agree that we are gambling and if we lose, thats the risk we are taking. However, if you ever visit Vegas and try to bank with a big pot, you will not be permitted to play on their poker tables anymore. Some hotels will say that you can come back in, provided that you come back with the large pot you left with.

Of course, that is Vegas and this is Puzzle Pirates. In Vegas a good player would prefer to have a large pot in play because that gives them more power at the table...here it seems to be much more difficult to protect a large pot.

Just my thoughts....
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If everyone thinks banking is so unfair... why don't you just do it yourself? Because its "unsportsmanlike"? Because it's a "cheap way to win poe"?

What's the difference between banking and cashing out? At least when someone banks they bring back poe to the table.

And for all of you who say the buy-in-with-the-lowest-amount strategy is luck... I'd have to laugh at that. If you know how to play short stack, it's whether or not you get unlucky. When I make 100k from three different hands, such as AK, QQ, and AJ, its because I waited for those hands and someone called with a worse hand... how is that luck? KQ losing to AK... wow is that awful. Of course I'm going to bank it because its fake money poker... where people will call a 100k bet with a flush draw.

How did the bankers get their poe in the first place? From you calling with bad/worse hands. When someone is the short stack, and has folded the past 30 hands, don't complain that they "just happened" to have AQ when you have Q10.

Banking isn't cheap, it just involves not calling when you get a face card and a 6 kicker, or my favorite, "But they were suited!". 99% of bankers lose their poe eventually from one bad luck hand since they like steaming afterwards. Take advantage of the ones you know are bad, avoid getting into pots with good poker players and medium hands... I'm not sure whats difficult about that.

To stop rambling on, banking takes more strategy than anything if you're good at it.
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To stop rambling on, banking takes more strategy than anything if you're good at it.

Um, if I understand you correctly, you are using "banking" to describe a complete way of playing that involves banking. This doesn't really help to keep the issue clear.

As far as I understand, what you call "banking" is this:
  • Buy in for the minimum at a table with high stakes
  • Immediately fold eveything that's not very good, rebuy if necessary.
  • If you get a very good hand, go all-in pre-flop and hope for stupid callers
  • If you lose, rebuy, if you win, bank.

If that's what you mean, then no, that does NOT take "more strategy than anything". In fact, all the strategy it takes is what I described above, which is very little indeed. It purposefully removes all the complexity of post-flop betting, which is a large part of the game. It is a "cheap way to win PoE" if you have a steady supply of stupid callers. I also don't think it's all that horrible, since you get involved in far fewer hands than a normal player, though going against a table full of players using that strategy would be very boring indeed.
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Um, if I understand you correctly, you are using "banking" to describe a complete way of playing that involves banking. This doesn't really help to keep the issue clear.

As far as I understand, what you call "banking" is this:
  • Buy in for the minimum at a table with high stakes
  • Immediately fold eveything that's not very good, rebuy if necessary.
  • If you get a very good hand, go all-in pre-flop and hope for stupid callers
  • If you lose, rebuy, if you win, bank.

If that's what you mean, then no, that does NOT take "more strategy than anything". In fact, all the strategy it takes is what I described above, which is very little indeed. It purposefully removes all the complexity of post-flop betting, which is a large part of the game. It is a "cheap way to win PoE" if you have a steady supply of stupid callers. I also don't think it's all that horrible, since you get involved in far fewer hands than a normal player, though going against a table full of players using that strategy would be very boring indeed.


There's more to it than that, and no, preflopping all in is one of the stupidest things you can do.

Second, I bank only when I hit 120k+

Third, How is betting 6k preflop getting "stupid" people to call an unfair strategy? I bad mouth them the entire game, if you were to ask anyone, and this makes them purposely call with crap against me to try and beat me unfairly.

When they do beat me unfairly, I make a huge deal about it --- not because I lost a "whopping" 20k, but because it makes them think that if they do it again, they can see me "overreact". Losing one 60-40 just means I'll win another.

Last, I raise only with very good hands? No, I give the reputation that I do, so people think when I raise and the flops 10 9 5 that they have me. It seems to be working since...1. That's what you think I do, and 2. I've made 7 million, only from poker. If my strategy was so cheap and easy all the other bankers would be loaded.
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There's more to it than that, and no, preflopping all in is one of the stupidest things you can do.

Then why would buying in at minimum and banking be part of the strategy? This was the impression I got from your "rambling".
 
Third, How is betting 6k preflop getting "stupid" people to call an unfair strategy? I bad mouth them the entire game, if you were to ask anyone, and this makes them purposely call with crap against me to try and beat me unfairly.

Uh, I don't get this at all. Who is calling what "unfair"??
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Re: Is Banking really so bad?

I don't know why someone started another thread on this topic. It's very simple to understand.

If you believe that you are a better poker player than the other players at your table, it is to your advantage to have the most chips on the table. By banking, a player is telling me he does not have confidence in his own poker skills, and thinks poker is primarily a game of luck. Players like that are awesome to play against, as they're very easy to read and take their money.

Any time another player takes chips off the table, my chips become a higher percentage of the chips in play, and I have gained mathematical power. As a better-than-average poker player, I welcome this and if you are better-than-average you should as well.

The reason that every other online poker site and casino does not allow banking has nothing to do with keeping players happy, or being fair, or anything like that. It has to do with maximizing their own profits by having lots of big pots from which they can take more rake. Puzzle Pirates poker has no rake, so why would they care if people bank?
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Banking Sucks.

Especially when I lose all my money on pure luck then the person rebuys for a fraction of the win.
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Then why would buying in at minimum and banking be part of the strategy? This was the impression I got from your "rambling".


Buying in at the minimum amount allows it so when I get AK, preflop 8k making it up to 10k (half my chips), Im not afraid to bet all in after a crappy flop. After I bet all in, 50% of the time they fold, 40% of the time they call with a chase of hitting 6 outs (i.e. QJ), and 10% of the time they call with top pair --- but still giving me 6 or more outs to hit. This usually puts me around 50k if they call, 40k if they fold, from blinds of people who folded, allowing me to call suited connectors, etc.

 
Uh, I don't get this at all. Who is calling what "unfair"??


Uhh, you called it a cheap way to win poe.
 
It is a "cheap way to win PoE" if you have a steady supply of stupid callers.


Cheap=Unfair

And like Aenor says, bankers usually suck. I only know of two who have made poe without losing it, which would be Silvermask and I.
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Re: Is Banking really so bad?

If by "banking", you mean the act of cashing out a large stack, and then buying back in with a smaller stack, that is none of
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Rather, it is a calculated play; you are deciding to reduce your risk in exchange for a reduced potential gain.

You are setting aside some of your winnings.
Key words: Your winnings.

Not "their losses"

Not "Their chance to get their money back".

You are saying "I will give myself some guaranteed wins, in exchange for a smaller stack and reduced chance of a large, lucky win later".

What happens if you keep betting and playing?
Answer: Thanks to randomness, you will have some wins and some losses. If you never cash out, then at some point, statistically, you will go broke.

Look at Las Vegas. That's what they count on.
Would you ever, *ever* continue to play "double or nothing" win after win, knowing that at some point a loss will wipe you out?

Banking is smart. Not stupid. Not mean, evil, etc.

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Re: Is Banking really so bad?

It's impolite.
If you don't care about being polite, go to town.
Be aware that this will make it harder to find others willing to play with you.
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Re: Is Banking really so bad?

If banking is a calculated play as you say, then why is it banned in just about every major casino in the United States? You can say it is good play, but if it was I am sure there would be wide acceptance of such outside of YPP, which there is not.
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Re: Is Banking really so bad?

 
 
Then why would buying in at minimum and banking be part of the strategy? This was the impression I got from your "rambling".

Buying in at the minimum amount allows it so when I get AK, preflop 8k making it up to 10k (half my chips), Im not afraid to bet all in after a crappy flop. After I bet all in, 50% of the time they fold, 40% of the time they call with a chase of hitting 6 outs (i.e. QJ), and 10% of the time they call with top pair --- but still giving me 6 or more outs to hit. This usually puts me around 50k if they call, 40k if they fold, from blinds of people who folded, allowing me to call suited connectors, etc.

So it's all about maintaining the ability to go all-in and thus forcing a showdown without risking too much? Sure sounds like someone who's not comfortable with the full complexity of post-flop betting.

 
 
Uh, I don't get this at all. Who is calling what "unfair"??

Uhh, you called it a cheap way to win poe.
 
It is a "cheap way to win PoE" if you have a steady supply of stupid callers.

Cheap=Unfair

No, I meant cheap = not requiring much skill but instead relying on a simple, reliable tactic.
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Re: Is Banking really so bad?

Mmk, so my strategy is easy after you get the hang of it. If you think you know everything there is to it right now, why don't you go out and make 7 million poe from poker? The tactic isn't simple, and I make my fair share of calling people's bluffs. The tactic just makes it so I can play with 50k - 100k, only wagering 20k.

But really, if it's so easy, go ahead and try it. It just seems to me that the simplist and easiest method would be the one that 95% of people do. This one is just more effective, since about every third try I'll get up to 120k (which would be a 60k profit) cash out and be done for the night. And since something is more effective that people don't understand as being a strategy, they claim it to be cheap, etc.

It's easy to play against bankers who don't know how to be one. On the offchance you play a good one, you'll be surprised how much more they win than you.

Just a note - Official poker definition of the term "Banker": The player at a table who is responsible for passing out chips and keeping track of the money and credit.

Must suck to be them.
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Re: Is Banking really so bad?

 
If banking is a calculated play as you say, then why is it banned in just about every major casino in the United States? You can say it is good play, but if it was I am sure there would be wide acceptance of such outside of YPP, which there is not.


Casino's often ban strategies that are good for the player. Counting cards is prohibited in just about every major casino in the United States; though I am certain that it is very advantageous at Black Jack.
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