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Ryanford350

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Jinxed Idol mystery solved?

after 12 years...



I distinctly noted that I was the sole pirate on that ocean at the time which has never happened. Logged on again and, boom- the award.

K, so... WHAT DO I WIN??

...cough, black gator? Awe y'all shouldn't have, cough...
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Re: Jinxed Idol mystery solved?

Is this reproducible?
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Re: Jinxed Idol mystery solved?

I've been on by myself before (on Opal and Jade) and have never received the trophy. I'm pretty sure this isn't mystery solved.
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Re: Jinxed Idol mystery solved?

 
Is this reproducible?

Always an important question

From my testing, no.

My best guess is that, similar to monster frays randomly spawn several times per day, every once and a while, the next person to log on will get the Jinx Idol trophy. This explains the lack of any obvious trigger, including the number of people who are once (13 is a popular guess), the time of day (logging on at 13 minutes after the hour, etc.) or anything else. It also explains why more people on oceans like Ice have it, because there are fewer people who play those oceans.
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Hikariks

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Re: Jinxed Idol mystery solved?

 
I've been on by myself before (on Opal and Jade) and have never received the trophy. I'm pretty sure this isn't mystery solved.


The times i've gotten it, Sage had 300+ people on, or just a random day with 100+ in Malachite

Edit:
Of course how post before says, Oceans with less people have a higher chance of many more pirates getting.
Why? I believe it has to do with odds
like a percentage / ammount of people in the ocean

So, more people in an ocean, the odds of obtaining it is higher
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Re: Jinxed Idol mystery solved?

 
Of course how post before says, Oceans with less people have a higher chance of many more pirates getting.
Why? I believe it has to do with odds
like a percentage / ammount of people in the ocean

So, more people in an ocean, the odds of obtaining it is higher

This can actually be, to a degree, tested by doing something like Shinito's trophy surevey. Shinto only looked at Emerald, while such a test would need to do several oceans.

I stand by my claim that the lower the population of an ocean is, the more likely a given pirate is to get the jinxed idol. For example, despite not playing on Ice much and that you can only log onto Ice if you are subscribed, 5 of my 24 alts have a jinxed idol, while the ocean I played most on, cerulean, only has 3 (of 111) alts with the jinxed idol.

If someone is interested in doing serious research, you could go through the trophy speculation threads and update Jinxed Idol Speculation yppedia article. Pay special attention to my example of a rarely used alt with the jinxed idol. As I explain in that post and followups, that particular alt did almost nothing that could have been a trigger, I have a complete, and extremely short, history of what it did. That example acts as a counter example of almost every theory that has been proposed.
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Re: Jinxed Idol mystery solved?

For not so serious research purposes:
I tend to lose track of alts and delete them a lot but I have none with jinxed idol on Emerald or Meridian (at least 1 on each ocean before the mergers played enough to get illustrious in a few duty puzzles), at least 6 on Ice, 3 out of 10 on Opal, 1 out of 4 on Jade, and at least 18, most awarded since the merger, (about half minions) on Cerulean.
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Re: Jinxed Idol mystery solved?

Every time I've gotten it (3 or 4 times) I was not the only pirate online. Twice it was on Emerald during moderately busy login times.

Every time I *was* the only pirate online, I have never gotten it.

Not reproducible. By this point, I'm convinced it's truly random.
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Re: Jinxed Idol mystery solved?

 
Every time I've gotten it (3 or 4 times) I was not the only pirate online. Twice it was on Emerald during moderately busy login times.

Every time I *was* the only pirate online, I have never gotten it.

Not reproducible. By this point, I'm convinced it's truly random.


*sighs... agreed- so does this mean no gator?
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Re: Jinxed Idol mystery solved?

 
 
Every time I've gotten it (3 or 4 times) I was not the only pirate online. Twice it was on Emerald during moderately busy login times.

Every time I *was* the only pirate online, I have never gotten it.

Not reproducible. By this point, I'm convinced it's truly random.


*sighs... agreed- so does this mean no gator?



This is as much as i can give you pal
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Re: Jinxed Idol mystery solved?

To keep Tips & Tricks from being flooded, and to reduce accidental spoilers, all discussion and speculation regarding Trophies should be placed in this thread.
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