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Whyknot7



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Hoy,
Its been more then 2 months since WG was released but still we dont have info of max SF or sink damages. Its a fragile ship all navers have some idea from experiences yet there isnt any decleration on yppedia. I think those infos have priority while releasing any ship.

Note for forum tarts; I know what pillage and bnav is. Im ulti and got # 1 thophy too. Please consider that before quoting and tarting. Thanks.
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I was under the impression it has the same hull strength as a WB, can anybody confirm this to be the case?
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I was under the impression it has the same hull strength as a WB, can anybody confirm this to be the case?


The Hull strength is between a WB and a xebec, full details in the damage chart https://yppedia.puzzlepirates.com/Sea_battle
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The link you provided does not have any info abt WG.
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The link you provided does not have any info abt WG.


Must of mistaken Merchant Galleon to War Galleon, hopefully a developer adds in the missing information :x
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The link you provided does not have any info abt WG.


Must of mistaken Merchant Galleon to War Galleon, hopefully a developer adds in the missing information :x


Developers explicitly refrain from placing information in YPPedia. It is their policy to wait for players to discover, calculate, and publish the information for ourselves. So contrary to what might be popularly believed, YPPedia is a wholly unreliable source for any given fact about the game.

In particular, we've had huge problems with calculations of hull damage, even with well-established vessels. See this YPPedia discussion which led me down a huge rabbit-hole of testing every vessel in every combination with a Grand Frigate as the reference point. Testing led me to these totals, some of which were repudiated 3 years later by a developer, who broke the abovementioned rule to correct my numbers.
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I can say with some confidence that the War Galleon has the same (or very similar) hull as the War Brig.

In rumbles, damage is rounded to the nearest 1/12th (where 1 = max), and in SFs damage can have 1/36th precision. In a recent pillage, I got the following interesting results:

Against barbs:
1 MCB ~ 0.5/6
2 MCB ~ 1/6

Against brigs:
1 MCB ~ 3/36
4 LCB ~ 19/36
1 WF ram = 1.5 LCB ~ 7/36

Assuming I can count and the rounding is described correctly, the limits for brawl maxes are approximately
7.71-7.78 LCB = 10.28-10.38 MCBs = 15.42-15.57 SCBs
so sinks are approximately
12.85-12.97 LCBs = 17.12-17.30 MCBs = 25.69-25.95 SCBs

If I had to guess, I'd pick
7.7625/10.35/15.525 for max brawl and
12.9375/17.25/25.875 for sink
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Continuing from where Bluedaemon left off I decided I'd help, after a few battles of randomly putting Small cannon balls into the war galleon I realised you could just reverse the formula to work out which numbers for small cannon balls (SCB) could lead to a smaller overall range.

So I tested 11 and 14 SCB
11 gives 26 blocks
14 gives 33 blocks

Leading us to the range of 15.42857143 ---> 15.50769231 SCB to max a WG

Given only the fanchaun currently takes a weird number of SCB to max and that 15.5 is in this range. I'd assume it takes 15.5 SCB to max a WG

TL:DR
Guesses for
Max Damage for WG 15.5 / 10.333 / 7.75
Sink Damage for WG 25.833 / 17.222 / 12.91666


You could potentially further narrow down the range using rock damage, assuming it would be 1.25 or greater, but still less than 1.5 SCB's worth of damage, but that's for another day.

You can see all the numbers on this google document
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Can confirm the upper limit of ~15.508 SCB based on

8 MCB + 2 MB ram = 9.333 MCB -> 33/36

My new guess (if it's not 7.75/.../...) is
7.72875/10.305/15.4575
12.88125/17.175/25.7625

because who doesn't like it when everything ends in 5?

Turning to rocks,

6 rock hits = 18 blocks,
11 rock hits = 33 blocks,

which, keeping JC's range of 7.7143-7.7538 LCB, puts the rock hit between about 0.6332-0.6461 LCB (1.2664-1.2922 SCB).

My guess for that is 0.640625/0.8514667/1.28125.

Haven't gotten to rams yet.
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I re-read the Yppedia article and it mentions the following;
 
When a ship hits the edge of the map or rocks, it takes the amount of damage shown in the table below. For example, if a grand frigate hits rocks it receives the equivalent of 1.5 large cannonballs worth of damage. The numbers correspond to exactly 3 swordfighting ("SF") blocks worth of damage to the ship, or one twelfth full SF damage.


So it seems rock damage numbers are of no help in figuring out hull size and the following ranges are what we have for rock damage:
Small CB
1.285714286 --> 1.292307692
Medium CB
0.8571428571 --> 0.8615384615
Large CB
0.6428571429 --> 0.6461538462
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