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Albinoninja



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I'm having a lot of trouble doing the shipwright puzzle. I'm able to chain together 4-5 clears, but I can't seem to move up past able/proficient level of play. The problem with this is that it seems to me that you need to get the 5 tile pieces/gold to really do a good job with this puzzle, but I'm never going to see these as my rank won't ever move up.

Seems like a bit of a catch-22, but I could be completely wrong. Am I just not puzzling right?

Sorry if this isn't proper for this forum, I'm just a bit frustrated.

-Signed a Broad/Proficient Shipwright
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I'm having a lot of trouble doing the shipwright puzzle. I'm able to chain together 4-5 clears, but I can't seem to move up past able/proficient level of play. The problem with this is that it seems to me that you need to get the 5 tile pieces/gold to really do a good job with this puzzle, but I'm never going to see these as my rank won't ever move up.

Seems like a bit of a catch-22, but I could be completely wrong. Am I just not puzzling right?

Sorry if this isn't proper for this forum, I'm just a bit frustrated.

-Signed a Broad/Proficient Shipwright


Hi Albinoninja,

First a question; what Ocean do you play on? If you are playing on Obsidian the scoring curve is much higher due to the high skill of a lot of players. If you played SW on Emerald and got constant Excellent, you most likely would only be getting constant Good on Obsidian.

Secondly, how are you arranging your clears? Are you placing your three pieces before your four pieces? A good thing to do as well is anticipate a piece that might show up so you can place it right away. With only having 3-4 pieces you should be able to get 5-6 pieces placed.

This is a really good thread to read up on shipwright scoring and explains better than I ever could.

Hope to see you on the leaderboards sometime!
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Hey, thanks for responding. So I'm on Obsidian, and only getting fine for each time I play. I'm clearing generally in a 3-3-3-4-4 pattern, removing the three if I only end up clearing 4 pieces.

My main problem with most shipwright tutorials is that they talk about making sure you get a five clear in there at the end or use gold, which I don't have either of.

I appreciate the optimism on the last line! But Obsidian has too many good players, and it's pretty disheartening to those of us who are trying to move up in the world.

Thanks for the reply, though. I'll see if I can do any better.
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Hey, thanks for responding. So I'm on Obsidian, and only getting fine for each time I play. I'm clearing generally in a 3-3-3-4-4 pattern, removing the three if I only end up clearing 4 pieces.

My main problem with most shipwright tutorials is that they talk about making sure you get a five clear in there at the end or use gold, which I don't have either of.

I appreciate the optimism on the last line! But Obsidian has too many good players, and it's pretty disheartening to those of us who are trying to move up in the world.

Thanks for the reply, though. I'll see if I can do any better.


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If you dont have one five piece, its important to make a high vegas. Start with a vegas and make it with anticipating bigger and bigger. Vegas 2 to 5 is easy to make cuz the pieces are not so big. So you can get incredibles and high excellents on every ocean. This will push you up and you will get the first five piece ... have fun :).
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Vegas 2 to 5 is easy to make cuz the pieces are not so big


You say that a Vegas is easy, but since the pieces come in randomly after a clear, how do you plan to clear more than ~4-5 times without a wild piece? Honestly, I'm starting to think that I should just give the whole darn thing up.
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There is a 2/5 chance once you get gold and before that 1/4 chance of the piece you need appearing when you make clears. Arranging the leftover pieces to partly form patterns you couldn't make or other possible patterns often gives you a higher score than you otherwise would have. It is better to do this with smaller patterns as you can make more of those, though if you clear more 4s than 3s say when you get 5 piece shapes make more of those 4 piece ones.

Also important is after each clear the timer resets so take your time making sure the pieces appearing match the patterns appearing and if they don't go for say a bingo instead of a donkey. Triples tank your score. The timer resetting also gives you time to see if patterns that appear can be placed, or almost placed, which can change the order that you clear shapes if the latter is true.

Then just use overtime carefully, get a bingo instead of a donkey for example so that you can get another one in the overtime.

On Obsidian doing all this along with what you said you are doing will get you on average a good, which is enough to get you to skilled or better and eventually 5 pieces. I am probably missing something as I still get fines sometimes, but I also read that the puzzle has the highest amount of luck involved.
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You say that a Vegas is easy, but since the pieces come in randomly after a clear, how do you plan to clear more than ~4-5 times without a wild piece? Honestly, I'm starting to think that I should just give the whole darn thing up.


Clear the 3's and try to get more 3's with anticipating. After this make the same with the 4's. Sometimes you can lay one more 3 before you lay a 4, then do it. After all the 4's are cleared, try to clear more 3's and so on ..... Ok, its much brain working and you need anticipating experience, but its real easy to get Vegas 2 to 5 or more on these easy boards. In short form i can say, play with the random! Its much luck, but you can manipulate the luck!
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