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is the building limit and the island likely turning into a fight over 2 dark shipyards an outcome GH are happy with?

The medium island of Olive on Cobalt long had two shipyard shops (and no bazaar!), and it didn't cause a problem. The same goes for Prolix on Cobalt, although it had a bazaar along with 2 shops.

I could see these islands even having 3 shipyard shops on them, with the palace selling pillage supplies.

Is there a problem that I'm not seeing?

Olive ended up that way due to the release of housing happening after it was fully built. I don't see an issue with a medium having two SY shoppes, I see a potential issue with a stalemate due to the changes implemented on Obsidian. Once the island is full, which will happen by the end of the second week, it will take four consecutive weeks of keeping the island out of the hands of anyone who would restore the shoppes, before new ones can be built. During this time however the owners will not be able to use them.

Is this situation one that GH is happy for the players to work out themselves, or are there further changes planned that will come in before the initial openings?
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Penguinpaste wrote: 
is the building limit and the island likely turning into a fight over 2 dark shipyards an outcome GH are happy with?

The medium island of Olive on Cobalt long had two shipyard shops (and no bazaar!), and it didn't cause a problem. The same goes for Prolix on Cobalt, although it had a bazaar along with 2 shops.

I could see these islands even having 3 shipyard shops on them, with the palace selling pillage supplies.

Is there a problem that I'm not seeing?

Olive ended up that way due to the release of housing happening after it was fully built. I don't see an issue with a medium having two SY shoppes, I see a potential issue with a stalemate due to the changes implemented on Obsidian. Once the island is full, which will happen by the end of the second week, it will take four consecutive weeks of keeping the island out of the hands of anyone who would restore the shoppes, before new ones can be built. During this time however the owners will not be able to use them.

Is this situation one that GH is happy for the players to work out themselves, or are there further changes planned that will come in before the initial openings?



Because of the limit of shops, only SYs will be built on the first few islands, but this will mean the palace has free rain to buy/sell every other good on the island. This will also be the case for large islands more than likely.
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I see a potential issue with a stalemate due to the changes implemented on Obsidian. Once the island is full, which will happen by the end of the second week, it will take four consecutive weeks of keeping the island out of the hands of anyone who would restore the shoppes, before new ones can be built. During this time however the owners will not be able to use them.

Is this situation one that GH is happy for the players to work out themselves, or are there further changes planned that will come in before the initial openings?

there are a huge number of problems with YPP's economy. I don't think GH's recent changes to shops have really helped, they are a net negative, but it won't, in itself, kill the game. *IF* GH does a reasonable job of running their three SY shops, what happens on the player run islands will matter even less.

Personally, I would make shop deeds on medium islands transfer like outposts.
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Personally, I would make shop deeds on medium islands transfer like outposts.


Why that would be 5 shops? Wouldn't the winning flag want to be able to sell the shops? They would have no value if they were only guaranteed to have them for a week.
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Personally, I would make shop deeds on medium islands transfer like outposts.

Wouldn't the winning flag want to be able to sell the shops? They would have no value if they were only guaranteed to have them for a week.

You just answered your own question. Shops on Obsidian have no value to general players because they can go dark in a week. They are only valuable to flags who own and can defend the island. So, the shops should transfer when the island changes hands.
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Personally, I would make shop deeds on medium islands transfer like outposts.

Wouldn't the winning flag want to be able to sell the shops? They would have no value if they were only guaranteed to have them for a week.

You just answered your own question. Shops on Obsidian have no value to general players because they can go dark in a week. They are only valuable to flags who own and can defend the island. So, the shops should transfer when the island changes hands.


I think they have some value as you can block others from building as it takes 30 days to dust. They also can be used as storage while dark. It would also encourage shop keepers to get into the politics and find a friendly flag to kade the island and turn the lights back on. I think its going to be an interesting mess and am looking forward to watching it unwrap.
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can someone give me a list of the active flags? Every time i log on someone is butthurt and there's one less flag and three new ones.
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Every time i log on someone is butthurt and there's one less flag and three new ones.


He's not wrong, folks.
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Will there be any way to tell the difference between light side and dark side ships on the board? If nothing has changed then all non-allied contending flags would appear with red ships on the board regardless of their faction.
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Will there be any way to tell the difference between light side and dark side ships on the board? If nothing has changed then all non-allied contending flags would appear with red ships on the board regardless of their faction.


Pretty sure you just explained it in your post. Alliances are a thing. If the faction can't figure out how to decide which flag is going to lead the event blockade and get everyone who's entering allied up, they probably deserve to lose.
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Will there be any way to tell the difference between light side and dark side ships on the board? If nothing has changed then all non-allied contending flags would appear with red ships on the board regardless of their faction.


Pretty sure you just explained it in your post. Alliances are a thing. If the faction can't figure out how to decide which flag is going to lead the event blockade and get everyone who's entering allied up, they probably deserve to lose.


It really is a poor show when in any kade with multiple attackers when they show up as the same color. Even just watching the flags are all red or someone goes down its not all that easy to determine which side sunk. I wouldn't think its that hard to fix/create multiple colors,

Defender Green
Attacker 1 Red
Attacker 2 Yellow
Attacker 3 Blue
Attacker 4 Green
Attacker 5 Orange
and so on....

It would make those of us who watch the kades enjoy it much more and it is a fairly big draw to the game that normally spikes logins.
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Just a note that this is Parley, not Game Design. If you have suggestions for game mechanic changes, you'll want to post them in that forum if you want the developers to see it.

This is where you'd discuss things like the political impact on the ocean, the way flags might organize, which flags are doing what, possible scenarios with different flag actions, etc etc.
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Maybe I'm missing something but...

The first event blockade is meant to be tomorrow and it's not scheduled on the noticeboard nor do we have a time that it's going on?
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Luxory wrote: 
Maybe I'm missing something but...

The first event blockade is meant to be tomorrow and it's not scheduled on the noticeboard nor do we have a time that it's going on?


Copy and pasted from the announcement:

11/18/2017 - Event
Type: Non Sinking
Time: Noon game time.
Rounds: 2 out of 3
Location: Triplet's Treasure

Prizes: Charm items!
1st - Sleeping Cat with a Sleeping kitten - Grey with white paws
2nd - Sleeping Cat - Grey with white paws
3rd - Maroon jeweled chest
The top 3 flags will also receive a modest flag hall to place them in (if the flag already has a hall we will give the monarch 10,000 PoE and 10 doubloons). The charm item(s) will be placed where the monarch chooses in the flag hall (as long as it's possible to place an item there).
Details: Given we're still in early access, this event will allow us to test blockades before we open islands. It's also possible we need to run additional event blockades.
Note: It's possible (but not currently intended) that the charm prizes may appear in the future on LE ships or as furniture in promo boxes.
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I was completely ignoring the time part of the post apparently, thanks!
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Blockade was great except is there a way to add the faction icon at the end of the flag name for each ship on the board. Would help for fast recognition.

Also i saw the post about the next blockade but i did not see what island its going to be on. I would assume Triplets but is that correct?
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Blockade was great except is there a way to add the faction icon at the end of the flag name for each ship on the board. Would help for fast recognition.

Also i saw the post about the next blockade but i did not see what island its going to be on. I would assume Triplets but is that correct?


12/16/2017 - Event
Type: Sinking
Time: Noon game time.
Rounds: 2 out of 3
Location: Triplet's Treasure
Prize: The winning faction will determine which island will open first, Magpie Island or Loggerhead Island. If the Defiant side wins, Loggerhead Island will open first. If Shadow wins, Magpie Island will be the first to open. The winning faction is determined by the winning flag. Thus, it's in a faction's best interest to work together to ensure the faction is the winner.
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See also, "It's sinking, and the results basically don't matter, so why even show up"
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so when is the next island opened:D can use some outposts or larges:D
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why does everything have to be at noon game time all the time?
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The attacked drops 24 hours in advance. So the cade time depends on the local time of the attacking flag. Since the most people live in america this is probably the best time for them to drop.
unfortunatly for the europeans or australians...
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Noon gametime (9pm in Europe) is not a bad time for Europeans, especially on saturdays.

...The Australians however, do not get good cade times.
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Next round of islands on Obsidian???
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Lol!
Just wanted to say something about the times...

Blockades are usually at 3am here. :) So, either I keep myself awake and become really sleepy around blockade time, or I sleep (and oversleep) and wake up when blockades are over. xD

Good thing I'm just a jobber and not in charge of running anything during kades. :P

(I'm not Australian, but closer to them in time. :) )
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Next round of islands on Obsidian???


I've heard gossip since I started that we would get the next set of islands in "summer".
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