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I have a thought challenge for you all. :]

With the introduction of the Kraken and its soft walls and its no-friendly-damage-from-ram boats and their unlimited moves, what is the theoretical maximum distance that a single boat could push into the soft wall with the assistance of 17 of its buddies?

We all know that we can easily get two tiles into the soft wall with the assistance of a rock, but would it be possible to top that? :O

I imagine the 18 boats would need to make some sort of pyramid to climb up each other and there would need to be a row of boats on the bottom continuously pushing into the pyramid to counter the soft wall's natural push back.

Anyways, a good thought puzzle for you all. :3
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ooo This would be awesome to try!

Edit : if anyone on cerulean wants to try this, Ill be there.
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Yeah. :P After all the smartie-pants on this forums figured out the theoretical max, I was looking to create an actual challenge to have 18 people youtube their pyramid and maybe give a 100k reward to each participant. ._.

Except I don't have that money. D:

Or pyramid plan either. ._.
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Well, If we do it on cerulean - Ill donate a month of sub per person who needs it to help :)
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Does the wall push back during the wind/whirlwind phase? In which case, wouldn't you just need everyone to form a straight line stern-to-bow and just drive directly outwards?
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Wow, Belthazar. That is a very good point. You could theoretically get people SEVENTEEN units out! I am so anxious to test this now....

Also, I'm pretty sure I've seen people three units out with assistance of a rock and a monster in Atlantis, and if I remember correctly, the "super wind" that pushes you back only pushed them two spaces back.

So, if I'm thinking of it correctly, a player who is those SEVENTEEN units out could spend SIXTEEN moves (four full turns) outside the "normal" zone after leaving the line. Wow.
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So, if I'm thinking of it correctly, a player who is those SEVENTEEN units out could spend SIXTEEN moves (four full turns) outside the "normal" zone after leaving the line. Wow.

Of course, if they stay in formation, the whole line can just turn right and move down the board like that, provided there's no rocks impeding the path of the guy still on the board. Or, ya know, tentacles.

Though, now that we've thought of that, the Ringers are probably going to patch it. Unless there's already a hidden hard wall three squares out, or something.
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Well, If we do it on cerulean - Ill donate a month of sub per person who needs it to help :)


I'm in and will gift subtime too!
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In Atlantis, I believe going more than three squares outside the board counts as a disengage (sailing out the back of the safe zone). That might not be true in a kraken though considering it's at the bottom.
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I recommend trying it with a few people to get 3-4 tiles out first - if there's a rock wall there you'll have wasted a lot of time dragging 17 people in.

If that's done and there's no rock wall or other invisible barrier there (Assuming it's at a reasonable time for me) I'll dubscribe and get on to help out though.
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I'm in for this on any ocean. I have a couple spare wrapped badges sitting about if we decide to go a-dubbing.
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Can we do this please?!

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I am willing to join this exploration
...and since a small trial was suggested (in case there is a hidden hard wall), I have a kraken map, lifeboats, and sloop ready to go on Cerulean.
Time for a Conga line, woohoo.

Edited to add which ocean, lol
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I'd be happy to join the conga line too, providing it's not at sleeping hour. hehe. Time and day please....
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I will do it this Sunday, August 17th.

Since I don't want to interfere with Victory Raiders Whisking Party at 11 AM Game Time that day...

What: Soft-Wall Depth Test (I will state this on NB)
Date: August 17, 2014 (Sunday)
Time: around 2 pm Game Time
Ship: sloop (lifeboats already acquired)
Kraken Map: 4 lps off Cleo on interarch


Just in case there is a hidden hard wall that causes a disengage, I suggest we gather treasures for about 15 minutes before doing the test. That way everyone gets some pay. Also, depending on the map, we might need to strategically place some powder kegs to protect our Conga Line from party-crashing tentacles.

If this is a good time for you, please confirm below with your Cerulean pirate name so that I can job you before posting on the NB.

Edit: I will see if I can get a larger ship to Cleo just in case the soft wall does extend past the reach of seven rowboats :)
2nd Edit: Borrowed a Baglagh on one of my alt's so we are set to try with it right after sloop test, if needed.
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Cerulean = 678
Ice = 136
Emerald = 670
Jade = 356
Opal = 295
Meridian = 653
Obsidian = 178
TOTAL = 2,966 league points
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I'm in probably not available.

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Patgangster on Ceru. Should be able to make it.
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Would love someone to video this, since I can't. I will be doing screen shots, though--hopefully as each boat crosses the wall, lol.

Great news if we use the Baghlah: My hearty and Monarch, Chaboogie, is allowing me to hold the deed to her baghlah on Forestria instead of just setting it to battle mode so my alt can use it. Thanks to this, I will be able to just hop on the baghlah and call "all hands" instead of logging off to switch to my alt and then re-jobbing everyone to that crew. Thanks, Cha, for removing a great deal of jobber confusion for this adventure <3
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Forestria~~finished memming all oceans on 7/27/17:
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Ice = 136
Emerald = 670
Jade = 356
Opal = 295
Meridian = 653
Obsidian = 178
TOTAL = 2,966 league points
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Good luck - I'd come, if I could. I would love videos/pics of the attempt.
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I should be around at that hour also. So count me in.
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Probably still sleeping at that time, wah. :p

Video it up for meee though! :D
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I'm going to an event across town, so it is unlikely I will return home by 2. Have fun without me.
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To answer the immediate questions: no hard wall, no disengage, yes, you can keep going until you run out of pirates to push you, and yes, it is HILARIOUS.

I think other people have video and screenshots forthcoming, but here's a pic from the initial sloop test:


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To answer the immediate questions: no hard wall, no disengage, yes, you can keep going until you run out of pirates to push you, and yes, it is HILARIOUS.

I think other people have video and screenshots forthcoming, but here's a pic from the initial sloop test:



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boatobatics :D

And grats to everyone who participated! Wish I was there.
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Anyone interested in the video.... it's here.
Nearly 4 minutes of video. :) It's currently uploading to Youtube and processing, so give it another 15 minutes.
Enjoy

http://youtu.be/uI-NHcuHZss

Unfortunately in my sleep deprived state, I lost the original Movie Maker project after saving the movies in video format. *cries* I'm off to sleep. zzz
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I guess I only got 15 in this screenie. The tentacle was proving problematic at the time. :P

Sorry I didn't resize. I are lazy.


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