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Taken from Forum Help and Rules thread:

 
Forum Rules
Be respectful and polite. Use of the forums is a privilege, not a right. Bans on the forums will now be permanent. Some of the things which are not allowed to be posted on the forums are:
- Spam or other nonsense that disrupts the forum's formatting, functionality, or usability - including "pyramids".
- Personal attacks--anything intended to insult or belittle the person behind the noseless pirate
- Foul and offensive language, the forums should reflect the same standards as the game. If it's filtered in the game, then it should be filtered on the forums.
- Personal or private information about another player
- Chat logs, PMs and other communication methods without the express posted permission of all participants
- Exploits and any other sensitive information about the game
- Links to cheat or scam sites, malware, fake charities, etc.
- Images as signatures, whether they were technically in the signature or manually pasted in a post.
- Avatars containing blue/navy text which resembles the forum titles given to Three Rings staff only -- as our staff grows, it is necessary to ensure that new members can easily distinguish official staff from players.
- Please keep the forums in the same themes as their oceans. The Opal forums should use German, Jade forums should use Spanish and the Global, Cerulean, Meridian, and Emerald forums should use English. Posts which cannot be read by the moderators will be moved, locked or sunk.

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Use of the forums is a privilege, not a right. Bans on the forums will now be permanent.


My question is this.... why are forums bans not occurring for those who on multiple occasions break the rules? Rules are in place for a reason, and should be acted upon.

Those who break the rules in-game are punished by suspension once a complaint has been sent. After their suspension time is up, they are prompted to type something along the lines of "I will not... [insert reason for ban]". When a permanent ban takes place, said pirate is allowed to fight this ban by sending an email to support.

It seems as though when a complaint is sent about someone on the forum, an OM whooshes in, edits the wrong-doing in the post, and the end. I wouldn't know, maybe there is some sort of message sent to the offending pirate telling them to stop, but as far as I've seen in my time on YPP, nothing much happens.

Eurydice and others were hired to keep on top of the forum, but to be completely honest, I haven't seem much posting from any of the Community Managers. I think its time to either re-write the forum rules, or start reinforcing them.
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Plenty of people have been forum banned. Plenty of people have had warnings stating if they keep on doing X, they will be forum banned. While you may not see it, it is happening.
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My question is this.... why are forums bans not occurring for those who on multiple occasions break the rules? Rules are in place for a reason, and should be acted upon.


I have definitely had a few personal attacks over forums by the same people. If people are supposed to "be respectful and polite" why do I not feel it when there are posts belittling my words?

I recently had a case where there were a few people belittling my forum post. They did not get banned from forums. Their posts were not deleted. My entire thread got moved instead. I feel as if I was the one to get punished for their disrespectful words. (yes I did send in /complaints through game as suggested by the Ocean Master online at the time)

 
Eurydice and others were hired to keep on top of the forum, but to be completely honest, I haven't seem much posting from any of the Community Managers. I think its time to either re-write the forum rules, or start reinforcing them.


I am seeing a lot of posts edited in the past few months by community managers, and Ocean Masters in charge of their specific threads. However, I have yet to see one to be banned.

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I wish there were a system that after 2 or 3 warnings, a pirate who breaks the rules could get a 6-12 month ban from forums, if not longer.

Thanks for posting this thread, I believe this issue really needs to be looked into by the proper authorities on the game.
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There are many cases that are not resulting in a ban, though. That is the problem with the rules. Are there some people who the rules just dont apply to? If so, thats not fair at all.
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You are allowed to voice your opinion as long as no one else is threatened by it.
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Plenty of people have been forum banned. Plenty of people have had warnings stating if they keep on doing X, they will be forum banned. While you may not see it, it is happening.


I know of 3 specific people on my ocean which have had multiple forum posts edited by OM's. They are still stalking the forums and breaking rules. They just broke this rule a few hours ago:

 
- Personal attacks--anything intended to insult or belittle the person behind the noseless pirate

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You are allowed to voice your opinion as long as no one else is threatened by it.


And when they are voicing their opinion and breaking the rules while doing it, what should happen?
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Breaking the rules how exactly?
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Breaking the rules how exactly?


- Spam or other nonsense that disrupts the forum's formatting, functionality, or usability - including "pyramids".
- Personal attacks--anything intended to insult or belittle the person behind the noseless pirate
- Foul and offensive language, the forums should reflect the same standards as the game. If it's filtered in the game, then it should be filtered on the forums.
- Personal or private information about another player
- Chat logs, PMs and other communication methods without the express posted permission of all participants
- Exploits and any other sensitive information about the game
- Links to cheat or scam sites, malware, fake charities, etc.
- Images as signatures, whether they were technically in the signature or manually pasted in a post.
- Avatars containing blue/navy text which resembles the forum titles given to Three Rings staff only -- as our staff grows, it is necessary to ensure that new members can easily distinguish official staff from players.

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-My words are my own, and are not a representation of others.
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Usually warnings and post-edits will be done, usually stopping the aggressor.
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Breaking the rules how exactly?


BAD EXAMPLE WAS REMOVED

Another someone just put a chatlog of a pirate without that pirates express permission in their signature. That to me would fall under
 
- Chat logs, PMs and other communication methods without the express posted permission of all participants

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As we speak, a pirate is changing his signature that contain fake chats that are not only insulting, but degrading. This is the 2nd time TODAY that this pirate has broken the rules in the forum.

Not only have I sent them a PM asking them to stop, but recieved a reply stating it will get worse. Where is the action, YPP?
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Someone stated they did not want to build shoppe's if they wanted to take an island. The response from one of these players is:

"You could not build a shoppe, even if you wanted to"

I just went and looked at the post. It's on a blockade intent for a medium where.... no new shoppes can be built.

If anyone thinks that is a personal attack, then I don't even know what to think.
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Someone stated they did not want to build shoppe's if they wanted to take an island. The response from one of these players is:

"You could not build a shoppe, even if you wanted to"

I just went and looked at the post. It's on a blockade intent for a medium where.... no new shoppes can be built.

If anyone thinks that is a personal attack, then I don't even know what to think.


I dont believe that was a good example, but I do know that that specific pirate has been one of those who has broken the rules multiple times. I could go to a thread and link you with a better example of their personal attacks.
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Someone stated they did not want to build shoppe's if they wanted to take an island. The response from one of these players is:

"You could not build a shoppe, even if you wanted to"

I just went and looked at the post. It's on a blockade intent for a medium where.... no new shoppes can be built.

If anyone thinks that is a personal attack, then I don't even know what to think.


Does a person have to go out of their way and say it in such a mean way? Do you consider sarcasm pleasant?

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To help with the speculation on forum rules being enforced, I've been suspended on multiple occasions for verbalizing my opinions on three rings, lately. Most of it in GD, which is a joke anyways.

Also, Upgrade, trolls will live forever, your PMs just fuel them.
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I can think of a few people in this thread I wouldn't mind seeing forum banned. :/
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I can think of a few people in this thread I wouldn't mind seeing forum banned. :/

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it seems as though when a complaint is sent about someone on the forum, an OM whooshes in, edits the wrong-doing in the post, and the end. I wouldn't know, maybe there is some sort of message sent to the offending pirate telling them to stop, but as far as I've seen in my time on YPP, nothing much happens.


They send you in-game messages, and they make you type something saying 'I won't do X again.'
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Although trolls do live forever, there is a way to manage them by preventing them from further posting. By enforcing the rules more strictly, making the forum a PRIVILEGE, people will avoid breaking the rules. Or if they do decide to break the rules, they will be punished.
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I can think of a few people in this thread I wouldn't mind seeing forum banned. :/


Still waiting for my trolls to step up to their actions
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I'm going to link to something you might find handy if you really dislike reading some people's posts that much. Not sure if it still works, as I don't use it... but maybe I should.

As for "You could not build a shoppe, even if you wanted to"... I don't even see how that sounds mean. It's a statement, it's not sarcastic. It's the truth.

Mute for the forums.
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I can think of a few people in this thread I wouldn't mind seeing forum banned. :/


Still waiting for my trolls to step up to their actions


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Doesnt look like whatever it is still works... got an error message.

I cant remember when, but i sent a petition in-game to get a forum mute against someone, but if i remember correctly, they said that wasnt possible. Even if it was, muting the player doesnt stop the problem, if just disallows you to see it happening.
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I'm going to link to something you might find handy if you really dislike reading some people's posts that much. Not sure if it still works, as I don't use it... but maybe I should.

As for "You could not build a shoppe, even if you wanted to"... I don't even see how that sounds mean. It's a statement, it's not sarcastic. It's the truth.

Mute for the forums.


1- the thread did not work for me
2- Even if I could mute on forums, I would want to see what people say about me on forums since they are a public place
3- I used a bad example. What do you think of the second? What do you think of the very first example I posted a little higher?
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I'm not sure you really want to know what I think, to be honest.
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I'm not sure you really want to know what I think, to be honest.


Haha okay :)
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I'm not sure you really want to know what I think, to be honest.


Im curious to hear what you think.
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2- Even if I could mute on forums, I would want to see what people say about me on forums since they are a public place


Okay wait a minute. You want to see what people say about you. Unless you think it might be mean or make you feel bad even if it was a statement of fact, then they should be banned and not allowed to say it.

So you only want to see people saying nice things to you. Honey, are you sure you want to be on the internet?
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2- Even if I could mute on forums, I would want to see what people say about me on forums since they are a public place


Okay wait a minute. You want to see what people say about you. Unless you think it might be mean or make you feel bad even if it was a statement of fact, then they should be banned and not allowed to say it.

So you only want to see people saying nice things to you. Honey, are you sure you want to be on the internet?


I think she is referring to if other people can see said pirate harrassing her, she'd want to be able to see the post too
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2- Even if I could mute on forums, I would want to see what people say about me on forums since they are a public place


Okay wait a minute. You want to see what people say about you. Unless you think it might be mean or make you feel bad even if it was a statement of fact, then they should be banned and not allowed to say it.

So you only want to see people saying nice things to you. Honey, are you sure you want to be on the internet?


I think she is referring to if other people can see said pirate harrassing her, she'd want to be able to see the post too


I can't say I really get that either. Why raise your blood pressure to no good purpose? But it seems like her definition of "harassment" and "belittling" are very extreme. "You can't build a shoppe even if you want to" is not "belittling the person behind the pirate". That would be an attack on the person, not the post or the idea.

For example, if there WAS room to build and I said "You can't build a shoppe because you're ugly and your mother dresses you funny", NOW I have attacked the person behind the pirate.
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