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Cleaver
Captain Joined: May 7, 2002 Posts: 3150 Status: Offline |
A discussion and question thread for the announcement of Puzzle Pirates on tablet devices! ---------------------------------------- [Edit 3 times, last edit by Cleaver at Feb 21, 2013 2:41:43 PM] |
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randomact
Joined: Jan 18, 2009 Posts: 2073 Status: Offline |
I'm glad to see you're looking at ways to potentially get some extra players to the game with the tablet devices, but my main concern with this is the pushback of the kraken. People have been hoping for something big since it was first mentioned in October(?), and it's looking like it won't be out until late this year, at the earliest. Will be interesting to see how the game works on tablet devices, however. Edit: My main concern is that a lot of people only play games on their tablet when they have a bit of free time, say 10-15 minutes. This could lead to more leavers mid-battle on voyages, which would end up being detrimental to the game. Has any thought been given on how to get around that? ---------------------------------------- Loathe/Forever #1 forum DJ. Anchovia tells ye, "Wanna come CI? I need someone's ass to stare at whilst I puzzle and yours is perfect." ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by randomact at Feb 21, 2013 2:45:56 PM] |
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upgrade431
Joined: May 3, 2012 Posts: 596 Status: Offline |
Will this just be the tablet or items such as the iPhone? ---------------------------------------- -Upgradde on Cerulean and Emerald Ocean -My words are my own, and are not a representation of others. |
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Twittly
Joined: Nov 12, 2010 Posts: 2184 Status: Offline |
This is good. Real good. Glad to see YPP doing something that will benefit us as players and them as a company at the same time. I am excited to see how they do it. ---------------------------------------- ~Twittly~ on Avatar by Yumisa! |
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Twittly
Joined: Nov 12, 2010 Posts: 2184 Status: Offline |
I believe it appears to be just for tablets because of they way he referred to the devices just as tablets. However, I HOPE I am WRONG and they do something for smartphones. ;D Sorry for double post >.> ---------------------------------------- ~Twittly~ on Avatar by Yumisa! |
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Plunderville
Joined: Sep 12, 2010 Posts: 59 Status: Offline |
Sweet! edited to take out question that was answered in the announcement, which apparently I didn't read very well. XD ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by Plunderville at Feb 21, 2013 2:53:54 PM] |
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jennygalaxy
Joined: Jul 9, 2005 Posts: 700 Status: Offline |
This is really REALLY awesome! I've been dreaming of playing puzzle pirates on my tablet and its coming true! Can't wait to do some touch screen billing. Thanks Cleaver! ---------------------------------------- Jennygalaxy, formally Cobalt, now Meridian Ocean. |
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Jeriannah
Joined: Jan 19, 2007 Posts: 211 Status: Offline |
I like this. I see a lot of puzzles that are less time intensive getting some more play. Also, it gives me another way to sucker RL friends into playing, which is always a good thing. As far as pushing back other projects, I'd rather see them working now to keep up with current technology (including the shift to tablet entertainment), and fine tuning that, and then going back to development. ---------------------------------------- Anothersneak & Sneakysalt on Cerulean --- I collect Guppy sloops. Send me a /tell or PM. Avatar by Tilinka - a present from Arryarrwoot! :D |
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Twittly
Joined: Nov 12, 2010 Posts: 2184 Status: Offline |
I somewhat disagree with this. Making YPP work on the tablet will be pointless if the content does not look enticing. On a second note, them creating a tablet version of YPP requires them to reprogram some stuff, which could be used to improve upon the desktop version. ---------------------------------------- ~Twittly~ on Avatar by Yumisa! ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by Twittly at Feb 21, 2013 3:09:52 PM] |
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wrs1864b
Joined: Apr 10, 2006 Posts: 4580 Status: Offline |
This sounds great! One of the great advantages of Puzzle Pirates is that, compared to most MMORPGs, it is pretty light weight. You don't need a huge screen with a screaming graphics card. I recently made a comment about how Puzzle Pirates is as fun now as it was two years ago, and I meant it in a positive way. It is still fun. Poker is also as much fun as it was 100 years ago. If you like Puzzles and being a pirate, YPP is great. If you like to be social, you can, if you like to play solo, things are a little more limited, but there is still a huge amount of things to do. One thing that isn't quite clear to me from the announcement is will people on desktops be interacting with people on tablets? It almost sounds like you can use the same ships and such, but you can't use the same pirate and all the pirates on a given ship will be either tablet or desktop. I could see how this could make the scoring curves more fair, but it could also cause a lot of confusion. Can someone clear this up? As far as the Kraken and such being pushed back, I'm ok with this. I'd rather see a busier ocean than new content. Sometimes you can't have everything. ---------------------------------------- Algol can not assert the truth of all statements in this post and still be consistent. |
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Twittly
Joined: Nov 12, 2010 Posts: 2184 Status: Offline |
From what I got from Clever's post, is that tablet people and desktop people will be on the same playing grounds. A ship can have tablet players and desktop players. ---------------------------------------- ~Twittly~ on Avatar by Yumisa! |
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Dylan
Joined: Jul 21, 2003 Posts: 9960 Status: Offline |
Tablets are ruining the game! Awesometastic news! |
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Cleaver
Captain Joined: May 7, 2002 Posts: 3150 Status: Offline |
A couple of quick answers: - We would love to have a phone version but the challenge of fitting PP into the small screen format is very significant. Fortunately the technological base we're laying down with the tablet version will allow us to consider our options for a phone version in the future. - Related, it's worth noting that industry data indicates that tablet gameplay sessions are more like what we see on PP generally (~30 mins+) vs. the shorter and more interrupted session times on phones. - The tablet version is the full game and players will be intermingled with desktop players. We may distinguish them with a name color, icon or other marking, depending, but they can do everything a desktop player can. Chat is obviously the biggest weakness with a virtual keyboard, but it works just fine. |
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PhantomNuke
Joined: Mar 19, 2006 Posts: 903 Status: Offline |
*rolls eyes* Too soon! ---------------------------------------- Game Design: A place to hide all your posts from OOO employees. |
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Aloyicious
Joined: Jul 9, 2008 Posts: 20 Status: Offline |
I've always thought that the more social aspects of the game could be accommodated on a tablet (or smart phone) without adversely affecting stats and the like. Sitting in the Inn, or on the dock - playing cards, managing shops and stalls - none of those activities need a full computer to do. ---------------------------------------- Lillythanne, Aloyicious, and Suzysunshine - mostly on Emerald Other oceans by request... and yes - that is my bike... |
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Penguinbr
Joined: Jun 10, 2010 Posts: 184 Status: Offline |
Answer me thiis! When you guys says "tablet", that means Only Android, Only Ipads, or both of em? ---------------------------------------- ~~ Penguinbr ~~ ~~ Captain from Veterans / Something of Fill In The Blank ~~ "Decennium says, "I clearly read: Penguin brat lol" |
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Runescapien
 Joined: Oct 4, 2008 Posts: 32 Status: Offline |
I know this could be in the distant future somewhere, but do you plan on releasing this for the more common tablet OS-es or targeting one eg. android or iOS ---------------------------------------- Longshot of the Meridian ocean Runescapien of the Emerald ocean I occasionally record patching ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by Runescapien at Feb 21, 2013 3:31:13 PM] |
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Cleaver
Captain Joined: May 7, 2002 Posts: 3150 Status: Offline |
- We are hoping to release on iPad and Android! |
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Iiannya
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I am hoping that when you mean tablets you are including kindle fires in this. I would love to be able to play pp on my fire in my bedroom when I am sick or something and can not make it to my desktop. |
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Twittly
Joined: Nov 12, 2010 Posts: 2184 Status: Offline |
Thanks for a response Cleaver! For a suggestion on the smartphones, I have always envisioned (for a few years now) a chat service for the phone. The app doesn't actually play the game, but you can talk to all your online heartys, crew mates, and anyone else that is online. (Would have to /w them or something similar to see if they are online.) Also, will there be people needed for bug testing...? If so, send me a PM and we can talk a bit. ---------------------------------------- ~Twittly~ on Avatar by Yumisa! |
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This is great news. I've been I've actually decided against using my iPad many times because I can't play PP on it, and have regarded it as a slightly inferior device because of that but hopefully this will change all that for many players. At the moment, the only choice for PP on the go is a laptop, and they're a bit heavy and awkward for a lot of people, so PP on tablets makes so much sense. It will definitely bring more players to the game once it appears in App Stores. |
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Aethera21
Joined: Aug 22, 2005 Posts: 2643 Status: Offline |
Interesting and welcome news. My biggest question is: when? The Kraken was initially teased almost a year ago, if I recall correctly (I see an April 2012 mention by Eightycats). Are we looking at Tablet Puzzle Pirates in 2013? Are you going to release functionality in stages? ETA: Beta testing is a good idea...hopefully you'll open a beta to existing players? ---------------------------------------- Aethera of Princess of Maniacal Menagerie Blockade staff on any ocean Avatar by Bunnylaroo ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by Aethera21 at Feb 21, 2013 3:50:52 PM] |
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Eurydice
Community Manager Joined: Mar 24, 2005 Posts: 2283 Status: Offline |
Hi, all. A wee note: off-topic posts will get deleted. And now, back to tablety goodness! ---------------------------------------- Sigismundo tells you, "Ask not for whom the tiny violin shrills. It shrills for thee." |
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Twittly
Joined: Nov 12, 2010 Posts: 2184 Status: Offline |
I believe first notice of the Kraken was in October. Can I see a link to this April thingy? :o ---------------------------------------- ~Twittly~ on Avatar by Yumisa! ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by Twittly at Feb 21, 2013 3:55:18 PM] |
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PhantomNuke
Joined: Mar 19, 2006 Posts: 903 Status: Offline |
Would OOO be interested in player research into what can and cannot fit onto a small screen? Any chance of the developers seeking more feedback from players, in this particular case when it comes to layout / UI elements, but also in general? ---------------------------------------- Game Design: A place to hide all your posts from OOO employees. |
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burnout5480
 Joined: Jul 23, 2005 Posts: 6 Status: Offline |
This is fantastic news. With the growing popularity of tablets and mobile game playing and such, this will greatly benefit the game and should help to increase player base if marketed properly. Great to see the developers bringing something like this to the game. ---------------------------------------- Biffledude of Meridian Senior Officer of Immaturely Spamming Prince of Ball So Hard |
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GreatBob
Joined: Sep 3, 2005 Posts: 1269 Status: Offline |
Fantastic! New and pioneering developments will certainly bring in a lot of new players! A few quick questions before I get into the thick of it: What payment models will be available for tablet players? Which ocean(s) will they be channeled to? What will the approximate ratios be? Now into the thick of it: With so many potential new players, and the development team's focus being put onto balancing the game between tablet users and desktop users (tablet users are stealing our familiars!!!), now should be the perfect time to review the new player experience. After all, these new players would be a waste if the best possible facilities for keeping them around aren't available! As such, I again present you with my list of suggestions originally located here.
Pillaging should be brought back into the limelight! Activities such as CI, HS and Atlantis, as well as flotilla attacks generally require a steeper time commitment then a pillage (from the perspective of the jobbers). What a great user experience it would be to log on from your tablet, hop aboard a ship, grab a station (perhaps add an "auto-find" feature to put the player directly onto the desired station (if free) to prevent them from having to wander around the ship), puzzle for a battle, have the brawl, then either repeat or be perfectly free to leave. This helps make the tablet experience about pillaging, allowing players to get hooked on the game and puzzles, which should solidify their commitment to the game enough that they'll want to pay and check out the other content. An idea on the side of bringing back pillaging is looking at the enemy AI. When it was changed due to BK blockades (as the old AI was no good for multi-ship encounters), pillaging was struck a blow it never recovered from. Instead of battles being fairly concise when you had an experienced navigator, the enemy plays like the guy that's been maxed in the battle but refuses to be grappled, dragging out the fights and almost certainly landing additional (and sometimes outcome changing) shots. So, separate the AI and give us the pre-BK blockade AI back! Edit: Question asked and answered during composing. ---------------------------------------- Penguinpaste, Captain of Polaris, Cerulean. Oppressed minion of Tyranny. Avatar by Phaerie ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by GreatBob at Feb 21, 2013 3:59:53 PM] |
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Twittly
Joined: Nov 12, 2010 Posts: 2184 Status: Offline |
I find this a very good idea. I have promoted this in other threads. OOO could benefit from certain players helping out. Of course it would have to be just a few players, but YPP holds a diverse community who have many skills. ---------------------------------------- ~Twittly~ on Avatar by Yumisa! ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by Twittly at Feb 21, 2013 3:59:05 PM] |
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Ribero1966
 Joined: Feb 25, 2011 Posts: 129 Status: Offline |
Whole thing sounds good, though I'd personally avoid something like the quoted, so as to prevent a means for any potential "descrimination", should an issue arise such as "Tablet players" gaining a reputation for leaving voyages early. [Subject to edits when I figure out how to articulate the point I'm trying to make] ---------------------------------------- Ribero-East on Emerald Occasionally Ribearo on Meridian |
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Xanther4
Joined: Apr 5, 2008 Posts: 629 Status: Offline |
Will this be a free download, or will it require a purchase? Also, how will that purchase affect subscriptions/Doubloon purchases (if it isn't free)? I'm definitely an advocate of this, a lot of puzzles (Distilling) would be much more exciting for me if it was playable on a tablet. It'll be interesting to see how certain game-mechanics are changed to accommodate the tablet versions. Also, on a technical note, how will PP be developed for many tablets that do not support Java? ---------------------------------------- Wipley of Emerald Darkfaery's Avatar Goodness |
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