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Christoban

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Flag and crew name sniping in Viridian

So the devs were pretty strict on making sure that nobody stole anybody else's pirate name. What about the names for crews and flags?


..really, I'm just curious (so far)..


Silvertalon: Do I know you? Does Prisama or Pleione or Woody? PM me please. Thanks.

...just curious (so far) ...



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Re: Flag and crew name sniping in Viridian

Viridian's been open for awhile now.. if you wanted to create your crew, why didn't you? No offense but getting angry about this now is kind of silly.
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Re: Flag and crew name sniping in Viridian

Christoban wrote: 
So the devs were pretty strict on making sure that nobody stole anybody else's pirate name. What about the names for crews and flags?


..really, I'm just curious (so far)..


Silvertalon: Do I know you? Does Prisama or Pleione or Woody? PM me please. Thanks.

...just curious (so far) ...



Christoban,
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This bothers me a little too. Seeing the Half Circle From Hell flag on Midnight. I was the 2nd member of the original Half Circle on Azure.
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Re: Flag and crew name sniping in Viridian

fr4nk wrote: 
Viridian's been open for awhile now.. if you wanted to create your crew, why didn't you? No offense but getting angry about this now is kind of silly.


It costs actual money to be able to start a crew and flag. More than a month's subscription.
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Re: Flag and crew name sniping in Viridian

fr4nk wrote: 
Viridian's been open for awhile now.. if you wanted to create your crew, why didn't you? No offense but getting angry about this now is kind of silly.


Not angry, just curious. (so far)

Christoban, twice, wrote: 
..really, I'm just curious (so far)..


Can someone start up the Crimson Tide flag on Viridian? Can someone start up the Pirates of the Damned on Viridian? What about the second or third or fourth or fifth dubloon servers that the ringers are forced to open when the Ubisoft release hits the shelves?

It's a valid question, Misery, don't turn it into a parlay whinefest. Can I be king of Crimson Tide on Viridian2? I'm asking what the ringer policy is, because they've already determined that some names are 'ypp-copywright' worthy, like characters named "Whitefire," for instance.
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..let's see, we have thing A and thing B, with thing B currently not implemented yet. Thing A leads to people stabbing themselves in the eye, as does thing B... but since A already exists..

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Re: Flag and crew name sniping in Viridian

The policy basically was, they protect names from existing subscribers for a week or so when a new server opens up. After that, it's fair game.
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Re: Flag and crew name sniping in Viridian

[quote:a9a33e5f61="Cleaver, in this post,"]The problem with reserving names is that it doesn't scale well -- what happens on the next server, which set of Pirates get to reserve their names there? Hopefully it won't be too much of a mad race, as many mates will be content to stay on Midnight. Deliberate name 'thefts' will of course be very much frowned upon and revoked.[/quote]
This of course was only about pirate, not crew or flag names. But I think the point stands that reserving crew and flag names is not a scalable solution as many more oceans open up. The oceans are meant to be separate, so flag X on ocean Y doing some act shouldn't reflect on flag X on ocean Z. It might be harder to be so open-minded in practice.

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Re: Flag and crew name sniping in Viridian

The only reason I turned it into what I did is because Viridian opened two months ago, if your goal was to form Half Circle from Hell on all servers, you and your mates could have done so, that's all. If someone wants to create Pirates of the Damned somewhere else, by all means, it's theirs, not like the name is so original it's a (tm). If it was our goal to do it, we would have. It was our goal to do it on Cobalt, and we did it, we were also the first crew on Cobalt. I understand real money is involved in starting a crew on Viridian, but if you want doubloons, you can get them for PoE, or at least that's my understanding. Also, I believe the name restriction falls into play for some people who have others taking their names simply to impersonate them on other servers.

It's not a matter of who is better or more well-known than who else. It's a matter of who goes to the OMs and says, hey, they took my name. Two months into it, it's unlikely I could go complain about Misery being taken, I could have created the name day one. And yes, again, I stress, I understand there is real-world money involved in starting a crew, but, again, I stress, two months is an awful long time in this game.
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Re: Flag and crew name sniping in Viridian

Firstly, creating a crew on Viridian is much harder than just holding a name.

Secondly, Half Circle From Hell is the kinda name that would be deliberately stolen, it's not something you'd just think of like Misery or even Pirates of the Damned.
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Re: Flag and crew name sniping in Viridian

Soulja wrote: 
Firstly, creating a crew on Viridian is much harder than just holding a name.

Secondly, Half Circle From Hell is the kinda name that would be deliberately stolen, it's not something you'd just think of like Misery or even Pirates of the Damned.


Yea. Especially since there is no Half Circle From Hell.

It was made up when Woody left the First Circle of Hell and formed his own crew.

I probably know the origins of the Half Circle better than anyone...besides Woody.
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Re: Flag and crew name sniping in Viridian

Daedra might be 2nd for knowing. Or not. I am 4th.
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Re: Flag and crew name sniping in Viridian

Penndalla wrote: 
Daedra might be 2nd for knowing. Or not. I am 4th.


I was a pirate in the First Circle of Hell. I was supposedly going to become an officer in training.

Then Woody formed the Half Circle From Hell, and chose me to join him. And I was made a Senior Officer. So I was the 2nd member of the Half Circle.

Daedra could know more about WHY it formed, but I know more about the actual beginnings of the crew forming.
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enKrypt wrote: 
It costs actual money to be able to start a crew and flag. More than a month's subscription.


Not to bring this back up, but it was bothering me, so I went to Viridian for the first time tonight to check it out. I'm not sure if it costs doubloons to create a flag, but as for a crew, a sloop costs 20 doubloons, and a captain's badge costs 20 doubloons.. 40 doubloons (if purchased in a batch of 42) cost 9.95$, a month's subscription for Cobalt or Midnight is also, 9.95$.
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Re: Flag and crew name sniping in Viridian

I believe there's a crew creation fee as well.

Mind you, if you're a skilled, experienced Midnighter, earning 70-ish doubloons in a month is well within reach.
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Re: Flag and crew name sniping in Viridian

10 doubloons to create a crew.
20 to create a flag.
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Re: Flag and crew name sniping in Viridian

Abandon all hope, you who enter this crew?

Perosnally, I don't see it as a big deal. Unless they're specifically posing as other people. Maybe they just thought the name sounded cool and decided to use it. Or maybe it's someone from the crew on Midnight/Azure that decided to start over. Either way, like Mis said, you really had your shot to retake the name, but opted not too, or were far too slow.
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Just PvP them?
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Either way, like Mis said, you really had your shot to retake the name, but opted not too, or were far too slow.


Er... The option to take the name costs $14, minimum, closer to $17. 70 doubloons is atleast 100K now. More like 150k.
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Re: Flag and crew name sniping in Viridian

I really do like Viridian, doing things that bothers folks either costs money or lots of your time. So if you take a name, you deserve it, and if you do it just for spite, Three Rings makes more because of it. It cuts down on abuse.
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Akumu wrote: 
Er... The option to take the name costs $14, minimum, closer to $17. 70 doubloons is atleast 100K now. More like 150k.


50 dubs should be just over 10 bucks, right? And if you borrowed someone else's boat for the creation, 30 dubs. From where are you getting 70?
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Re: Flag and crew name sniping in Viridian

Captain's badge (20) + sloop (20) + form crew (10) + form flag (20).
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Akumu wrote: 
NinjaGuy wrote: 
Either way, like Mis said, you really had your shot to retake the name, but opted not too, or were far too slow.


Er... The option to take the name costs $14, minimum, closer to $17. 70 doubloons is atleast 100K now. More like 150k.


Well this other crew which is just sniping did it in plenty of time, and paid real money for it. I see many of you posting here have crews too, you just opted for different names.
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Re: Flag and crew name sniping in Viridian

Yeah, the whole "who are you talking about, on which ocean?" thing just got more complex.

You could (previously) be fairly sure that someone talking about Flag A was talking about Flag A on Midnight. This looks like one of the drawbacks to multiple servers we should probably just put up with for now. Viridian will always be "another world" almost entirely unlike Cobalt, unless they do the unthinkable, and turn off doubloons.

Maybe crew and flag names that were "well known" by some measure (owning an island, maybe 2, or a massive fleet containing a Frigate?) should be automatically protected. Then again, having multiple pirates with the same name could be considered just another part of the social puzzle. Confusion to your enemies, and all that ... Yar!

Just so you know, Mongo on Viridian is NOT me ;)

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Re: Flag and crew name sniping in Viridian

Christoban wrote: 
I'm asking what the ringer policy is, because they've already determined that some names are 'ypp-copywright' worthy, like characters named "Whitefire," for instance.


I'm surprised that Rifkind wasn't one of these names then. I would have thought the only names copyrighted would be OM and Dev names.
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