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No offense to the Mala players but what could you run with 153 players I think its pointless to have greenies spawned on Mala. They should just merge Mala with another ocean and make it atleast worthwhile.
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What's up with the mala bashing on these forums :S If you don't like it, don't come.
Personally I started as a greenie on mala in feb. I love this ocean and only go on the other oceans for cading to get cheaper dubs. I doubt that I would be still playing this game if I had been spawned on any of the big oceans. First time I ever walked in an inn on viri I felt completely lost.
So actually spawning greenies on mala is a great idea, we are less picky when jobbing people because there are less jobbers to choose from. As a greenie it's quite sufficient to go on normal pillies. Seeing how I needed to beg and plead to get jobbed on a normal pilly as a greenie on viri and hunter I think mala does a better job at welcoming new players.
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I <3 MALA - its my home. Sure its been declining as people have moved over to other oceans. sure I hop over to Virid from time to time for cheap dubs. - But Mala is not dead.

Like Ingvild - I used to feel very lost and small on Virid whereas Mala is much more intimate.

I say Land Ocean of Opportunity. If you are going to grow the population - why not on an ocean that has room to grow?

When I logged onto MALA the first day of the Steam Influx - the ocean was a buzz and in particular Greeter Chat.

There may not be many of us but we stepped up to the challenge. Threw some greeter pillages. Started greeting the greenies. Started figuring out what needed to be done.

As is evident from the OP an influx of 100 greenies probably went unnoticed on Virid. Business as usual. Otherwise why would we be accused of getting all the greenies.

Live and let live - you like your big oceans - I like Mala.
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I'm glad to hear that you took time out of your hectic schedule this week to promote sabotage to an ocean that finally had a chance to lift it's head above the water.


LMAO. Promote sabotage my ass, and on an ocean that actually has a chance? I doubt even 10 people actually switched to Viridian if that..oh but wait..that's actually enough to completely sabotage your pitiful ocean, oopsies.

There is no hope for Malachite, get over it. Dragging down new players with your barnacle ocean isn't going to do anything positive.


Hmm, what's funny is that you go on and on about how polite you were being to these greenies with your little message and then you're surprised and offensive when people rightfully defend the ocean you're bashing. Many people on this thread have the same sentiments as you Ambur. However, they opt to present these opinions in a respectful way. Instead you choose to call Malachite "pitiful" and a "barnacle ocean." You're entitled to feel this way, whatever, but don't be surprised if people don't like your opinion.

I was willing to hear you out, but you've really brought yourself down in my eyes by virtue of the way you choose to defend your actions. Yer a nub, end of story.
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The failure of facts in this thread is astonishing. I'm glad Cronus shut you down because you were basically spreading lies and giving the new players an immediate negative impression.

During Euro evenings Malachite's normal (pre-Steam) population was around 100 (more at weekends) - not 'about 40'. We have pillages, Atlantis, HS, flotillas and CI, we have blockades (not that a greenie is likely to care about that immediately) and we are not a dead ocean. The only reason people think that is because of loudmouth and ignorant people like yourself claiming it at every turn.

As has already been pointed out, Mala wasn't getting 'all' the greenies at any point. It didn't, at least last night, have more greenies than normal pirates (it does, just, at the moment), and I wasn't getting question spam as a greeter.

 
No offense to the Mala players but what could you run with 153 players I think its pointless to have greenies spawned on Mala

So they should close all the foreign language and blue oceans too? Despite the fact you bolded Malachite, it had more people than Jade, Opal, Cobalt or Midnight. And what you can run is basically any voyage of WB or smaller size, which is basically everything except deep Atlantis. With enthusiastic new players xebecs and frigs will start to come back.

Malachite could do with more pirates, for sure. That's why it is important that greenies are spawned there. But there are quite enough pirates who currently play that ocean to give them a community to get into. Malachite could also use some doubloon buyers, as its exchange rate is one factor that moves people away, and that is something that ambitious new pirates with some RL money could easily help with, since they will actually be able to see a path to influence there.
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So without talking about how good/bad mala, viridian, or any other oceans are, the main thing that jumps out of this thread at me is how scuppering obnoxious you are, Ambur.

You think you have the right to log onto another ocean and send all the new players to your home ocean? If you were simply advising the greenies who came to you with questions, it'd be okay, but to create an alt and actively encourage players to leave one ocean and join another without giving malachite a chance? That's obnoxious and pretentious and you got what you deserved from Cronus.
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So without talking about how good/bad mala, viridian, or any other oceans are, the main thing that jumps out of this thread at me is how scuppering obnoxious you are, Ambur.

You think you have the right to log onto another ocean and send all the new players to your home ocean? If you were simply advising the greenies who came to you with questions, it'd be okay, but to create an alt and actively encourage players to leave one ocean and join another without giving malachite a chance? That's obnoxious and pretentious and you got what you deserved from Cronus.


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For what it's worth, Steam players tend to be 'gamers'. The way I'm using this word is that they're not mature teenagers/young adults looking to socialise and puzzle quietly to themselves. I'd reliably guess a lot of them would be much more in their element in PvP puzzles, from what I've seen of Malachite over the last year when I've logged on, it has basically no chance of retaining these 'gamers' and in my eyes is a waste.

Unfortunately, as has been previously mentioned, some oceans simply don't have enough experienced players to show off the game in it's best light it is entirely wasteful of this opportunity to spawn players on these oceans. I'm curious to see what the player figures are like in a month or two's time for how well each ocean retained their influx of new players.

One imporvement I would like to see that I've never seen having made a new account/pirate is more extensive information on different oceans. Even a small note from the corner guy when clicking the jobbing board;

 
If the ocean is a little quiet perhaps try logging onto a new ocean via the login screen



I agree 100% and this is what I was trying to get at. OOO is just wasting players by sending to them an ocean that doesn't have the man power to retain them. You don't think some of those new gamers are 100% not going to stay with the game because they are spawned onto a lifeless ocean? You don't also think they might tell their other gamer friends not to play YPP because it appears to be a dead game? Sending hundreds of new players to an ocean without hope is a terrible business move on the end of OOO.

 
So without talking about how good/bad mala, viridian, or any other oceans are, the main thing that jumps out of this thread at me is how scuppering obnoxious you are, Ambur.

Nah I'm really not, I've been completely polite and respectful of everyone's opinions, until Bunnyspawn decided to say completely ridiculous remarks. I have several other arguments I could bring up, but frankly it's just not worth it, if you'd like to speak to me find me on Viridian or hit me with a PM.

At the time I wrote this thread originally I was outraged and was only focusing on the fact that I was TONS of greenies pouring out of Mala docks, but didn't see any around Viridian. I was stupid to jump to the conclusion that OMG MALA HAS ALL THE GREENIES, I will admit that was a stupid conclusion, because it remains false. I still feel like sending players to Mala will be a waste of the new "gamers" we have been given. But since apparently a lot of you are Mala players, you will never see it this way, because you're too blinded by the love of your ocean. Which is understandable, I played hunter for more than a year and I loved that ocean, it was hard to finally admit it was dying and move to Viridian.

People who say that they love the small oceans only, haven't experienced the big ones. You may say you felt "lost" but who wouldn't feel lost on a new ocean with tons of people? it just takes some time to meet new people (there are tons that would love to meet you) and get to know the ocean. Moving from Hunter to Viridian was one of my best game moves by far.

This is my last post in this thread, as I said above, if you want to talk further about this you can hit up my PM or /tell on Viridian, au revoir
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For what it's worth, Steam players tend to be 'gamers'. The way I'm using this word is that they're not mature teenagers/young adults looking to socialise and puzzle quietly to themselves. I'd reliably guess a lot of them would be much more in their element in PvP puzzles, from what I've seen of Malachite over the last year when I've logged on, it has basically no chance of retaining these 'gamers' and in my eyes is a waste.

Unfortunately, as has been previously mentioned, some oceans simply don't have enough experienced players to show off the game in it's best light it is entirely wasteful of this opportunity to spawn players on these oceans. I'm curious to see what the player figures are like in a month or two's time for how well each ocean retained their influx of new players.

One imporvement I would like to see that I've never seen having made a new account/pirate is more extensive information on different oceans. Even a small note from the corner guy when clicking the jobbing board;

 
If the ocean is a little quiet perhaps try logging onto a new ocean via the login screen



I agree 100% and this is what I was trying to get at. OOO is just wasting players by sending to them an ocean that doesn't have the man power to retain them. You don't think some of those new gamers are 100% not going to stay with the game because they are spawned onto a lifeless ocean? You don't also think they might tell their other gamer friends not to play YPP because it appears to be a dead game? Sending hundreds of new players to an ocean without hope is a terrible business move on the end of OOO.

 
So without talking about how good/bad mala, viridian, or any other oceans are, the main thing that jumps out of this thread at me is how scuppering obnoxious you are, Ambur.

Nah I'm really not, I've been completely polite and respectful of everyone's opinions, until Bunnyspawn decided to say completely ridiculous remarks. I have several other arguments I could bring up, but frankly it's just not worth it, if you'd like to speak to me find me on Viridian or hit me with a PM.

At the time I wrote this thread originally I was outraged and was only focusing on the fact that I was TONS of greenies pouring out of Mala docks, but didn't see any around Viridian. I was stupid to jump to the conclusion that OMG MALA HAS ALL THE GREENIES, I will admit that was a stupid conclusion, because it remains false. I still feel like sending players to Mala will be a waste of the new "gamers" we have been given. But since apparently a lot of you are Mala players, you will never see it this way, because you're too blinded by the love of your ocean. Which is understandable, I played hunter for more than a year and I loved that ocean, it was hard to finally admit it was dying and move to Viridian.

People who say that they love the small oceans only, haven't experienced the big ones. You may say you felt "lost" but who wouldn't feel lost on a new ocean with tons of people? it just takes some time to meet new people (there are tons that would love to meet you) and get to know the ocean. Moving from Hunter to Viridian was one of my best game moves by far.

This is my last post in this thread, as I said above, if you want to talk further about this you can hit up my PM or /tell on Viridian, au revoir


You still seem to be on the stupid track of not understanding why people say they enjoy the ocean. I consider myself a serious gamer, and yet I'm still here. We still offer everything other oceans have, and yet you still seem to be missing it. To trach greenies, you don't even need more seasoned players than greenies.

Ambur, stop being you. It isn't working.
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People who say that they love the small oceans only, haven't experienced the big ones.


As I stated before, I screwed around on Viridian several times and I didn't like it. I'd rather hang out with good & experienced players rather than a nub overload. I'm sure there are many fine pirates on Viridian, but you're just being judgmental of the fact that some people -- *gasp* -- don't mind having 600 people on at once! ZOMG WHATS WRONG WITH ME?!

 
This is my last post in this thread, as I said above, if you want to talk further about this you can hit up my PM or /tell on Viridian, au revoir


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Edit: Basic events? You mean like pillaging, and atlantis? You must have missed where I already stated that we have that. Gosh, your comprehension is just teh craps :( And perhaps the reason that you saw greenies pouring off the docks is because Malachite only has two green spawning islands You would have known this if you'd bothered to take the time and look it up, instead of whining about even greenie numbers across oceans. (Oh wait, just Malachite. Because you didn't check. Silly you.)

Decided to pick up on this, as it seemingly gets ignored. When I logged on this eveningI decided to check this out.

184 people online, exactley 100 greenies. 0 Games of SF, Rumble, Tdrop, Hearts, Spades, Drinking. 2 Games of poker 20-200, 2k-20k, each with about 4-5 players. To check this wasn't temporary I decided to make a game of each. Nobody joined able-ultimate. Now im going to use Viridian as an example, because thats where I now play. Sure people don't join up on Drinking, Rumble or Tdrop games, but they are frequentley going. You will never find that there isn't a poker game going, at pretty much every stake. If you make a swordfight game it will not take you 10 minutes to find someone to fight.

Ok so parlour games aren't everyones cup of tea. So I checked out the pillage board, at the start there were no voyages up whatsoever, so I gave it 5 and some started to appear so yes, greenies can get involved in the pillages (most of the time), and it seems mala is less elitist. But there were no CI's or SMH's, and remained that way for the entirity I was on.

Sure I don't agree with the manner in which Ambur went about this. Im not going to say people don't 'enjoy' malachite, because clearley it has captured some of you malachitians. I personally would hate to be on an ocean where I can't do what I want, thats what I play the game for after all. Im sure plenty of you love malachite, thats kinda been proven with the Ambur gangbang for lack of better words.

But Malachite does not always have these basic events, sorry, it's simply not true. From what I see by player numbers I did not even log on at a 'bad time', yet basic events were still not avaliable to me. Sure, for the pillaging player Malachite can offer you pillages most of the time, but it can't offer the game in its entirity, which I believe is vital for capturing some of the new, exploring pirates. Even if all the veteran malachite players are amazing people, who will go out of their way to entertain their new greenie population, you still do not have the man power to introduce them to everything, the same way some of the larger oceans do.

Fully expecting to be flamed, but unlike some I 'did' look at malachite before posting, and I 'did' hang around long enough for the situation to change, where most of the time, it didn't.

Edit: Also expecting the Malachite can offer things other oceans cannot, such as a tight-nit community, a family, a village atmosphere. Other oceans can offer this just as well, you just need to hang around there for a bit.
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Whitehaze, your post is quite reasonable. But that is quite different from trying to send new players away. Most of the problems you describe are simply due to lack of numbers, and Mala does have enough to keep those new players around (particularly as we have a greenie-friendly community as you discovered). It's important for us to be given the chance to have some more pirates.
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But there were no CI's or SMH's, and remained that way for the entirity I was on.


But greenies which is the point of this thread, don't have the badges to go on those, and also, did you check to see if any CIs were currently inside the CI and thus not jobbing? We usually have 1-2 going at any given time, but since most people by now know each others schedules and have friends who will always CI, CIs take 5 minutes or so to job, because people ask each other before putting up jobs.
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I actually played on viridian for a little over two years, then played mala for a little over two years, then went back to viridian for a year, then back to mala again. I've also doubled up on sage and midnight at times. I played the ocean(s) that suited me best at the time I was playing., I enjoyed every one of them, and I would go back to any of them if I knew they would suit me best.

In any case, I'm not even defending the decision to send greenies to mala; I think there's pros and cons to both actions but I'm not here to argue them (honestly, I haven't even decided if I think it was a good idea or not).

My only point here is that you, Ambur, were obnoxious. Not in this thread, I skimmed most of it. In those screenshots, and in the actions you took. Purely obnoxious. I'd come tell you that ingame, except I quit. /shrugs.
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Probably because the other dubloon oceans are toxic sludge pits run by people that lack even the most basic island management skills.

Sure, some of the islands on Malachite are run rather poorly, but even they look amazing compared to how you guys do things...

Yikes.

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You are incredibly ignorant of things if you actually think what you did is right. Shall I pop on Viridian and warn players that their ocean has you on it?

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The failure of facts in this thread is astonishing. I'm glad Cronus shut you down because you were basically spreading lies and giving the new players an immediate negative impression.

During Euro evenings Malachite's normal (pre-Steam) population was around 100 (more at weekends) - not 'about 40'. We have pillages, Atlantis, HS, flotillas and CI, we have blockades (not that a greenie is likely to care about that immediately) and we are not a dead ocean. The only reason people think that is because of loudmouth and ignorant people like yourself claiming it at every turn.

As has already been pointed out, Mala wasn't getting 'all' the greenies at any point. It didn't, at least last night, have more greenies than normal pirates (it does, just, at the moment), and I wasn't getting question spam as a greeter.

 
No offense to the Mala players but what could you run with 153 players I think its pointless to have greenies spawned on Mala

So they should close all the foreign language and blue oceans too? Despite the fact you bolded Malachite, it had more people than Jade, Opal, Cobalt or Midnight. And what
you can run is basically any voyage of WB or smaller size, which is basically everything except deep Atlantis. With enthusiastic new players xebecs and frigs will start to come
back. Malachite could do with more pirates, for sure. That's why it is important that greenies are spawned there. But there are quite enough pirates who currently play that ocean to give them a community to get into. Malachite could also use some doubloon buyers, as its exchange rate is one factor that moves people away, and that is something that ambitious new pirates with some RL money could easily help with, since they will
actually be able to see a path to influence there.


You made an excellent point and made me look at the other side of greenies being spawned on mala now I understand alittle of why they are being sent to mala but I still don't understand why they just merge it with another small ocean and make it into a medium/large ocean.
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You made an excellent point and made me look at the other side of greenies being spawned on mala now I understand alittle of why they are being sent to mala but I still don't understand why they just merge it with another small ocean and make it into a medium/large ocean.


We've already got oceans that fit that demographic. The more I think about it, the more I realize that the different servers are not supposed to have the same vibe. Malachite isn't viridian, Sage also isn't Viridian. Being from Sage, I wouldn't want to have malachite merged into Sage, in order to make Sage more like Viridian, because I don't want to play on Viridian, I want to play on Sage. If I'd wanted to play on Viridian, I'd either transfer everything to dubs, and move to Viridian, or simply have never left Viridian in the first place.
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I enjoyed being on a greeter pillage today, on Malachite. If everyone had your tainted mentality, it wouldn't have happened. Who the hell are you, a sole ignorant twat, to basically deny me this event? If the OMs didn't have faith in Malachite, it would have closed ages ago, so don't act like a pretentious asshole and take matters into your incapable hands.

If Viridian was in the same situation as Malachite, I doubt you'd be pulling this sort of stupid act, it's purely a definition of being selfish. Thank you Cronus, and anyone who let greenies spawn on Malachite, it's revamped an interest for me.

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You cant put those words in the same sentence uless you have not in front of proudly or something Dx LOLJK no hate <3
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WTF is up with this Generic degrading of Mala?

I've heard enough. Mala is NOT Barnacle. Anyone who says it is can stuff their heads up their behinds for all I care, maybe it'll teach them a good lesson. A nice and Malachite-Orientated lesson.

It's interesting that also, the only people who have said that, have ALL been from Viridian. Now I'm sure that each and every one of you viridianites are nice*, but what gives you the right to say that an ocean is/is not crap. An Ocean is made by the people who play it, and that sums up a fuckload about yours.

Is there some kind of mandatory ego-boosting device the moment you step on Viridian? I don't think I've ever known any other type of player that simply screams "I am a superior being. And I have money" like some Viridianites do.

I expect I'll get a lot of Viridianites hating on me for this. That'd further my point.

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WTF is up with this Generic degrading of Mala?

I've heard enough. Mala is NOT Barnacle. Anyone who says it is can stuff their heads up their behinds for all I care, maybe it'll teach them a good lesson. A nice and Malachite-Orientated lesson.

It's interesting that also, the only people who have said that, have ALL been from Viridian. Now I'm sure that each and every one of you viridianites are nice*, but what gives you the right to say that an ocean is/is not crap. An Ocean is made by the people who play it, and that sums up a fuckload about yours.

Is there some kind of mandatory ego-boosting device the moment you step on Viridian? I don't think I've ever known any other type of player that simply screams "I am a superior being. And I have money" like some Viridianites do.

I expect I'll get a lot of Viridianites hating on me for this. That'd further my point.

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You're not doing much to convince readers malachite is a nice place.

Regardless of that fact, nobody has really said the players of malachite are the issue, it's more whether they have sufficient structure with skilled players to handle and retain an influx of 2-300 new players and whether those new players would be better suited on a more active ocean for the time being so they can experience the game to a fuller extent before perhaps deciding to move to malachite.
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Agreeing with Abandonment;

- Nobody is intentionally degrading Malachite.
- Most players feel that this game was at it's peak back in around '06/'07, when numbers on each ocean were around 1.5k peak time [sic]
- What is the point of evenly distributing greenies so each server is up at the number it was 12-18 months ago? Surely this will only lead to the game continuing on a backslide since it is in a phase that we know doesn't work. (From the fact populations are decling.


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- Malachite was formed when ocean populations were dropping.
- Very few new players were starting the game at that time (It was all old salts migrating).
- Malachite was populated by players looking to be a big fish in a small pond. This meant all Mala players had very similar characteristics and aims, and would therefore get along.

People are talking about Mala not being a failure for the reason above, yet for a greenie, it may not seem that way. It's far better OOO try to create an enviroment for when the game was at it's peak as opposed to when it was on the decline.

To a greenie, which is going to be more appealing and therefore keep the game going in the long run (i.e. 2,3,4 years into the future).
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So, from what I can see, the dub oceans have more than enough people. Why can't we try to revive the Subscription oceans? We have just enough people on our oceans to keep them running... We just need a kickstart of new blood to help the numbers so we can fill bigger ships like many other oceans. There are a lot of us older players on Midnight, who know more about the game than anyone else, so I feel if more greenies spawned on Midnight, we would be able to have a lot more influence on the greenies by teaching them about the game mechanics and helping them have a good time.

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The same number of greenies get spawned on the blue oceans. They just don't stay there, apparently.
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I realized that Ambur was talking about how she left Hunter because it was dying. If she truly loved it, she would have stayed and attempted to stop that. On Malachite, as you may have noticed in this thread, we have dozens of players who will defend their ocean til the very end, and even after that. I'd rather quit the game then move back to Viridian, where I'll just be another person. Greenies have an opportunity on Malachite that they won't get on other oceans. The layout for Malachite is perfect, it just needs people to run, and as soon as OOO gives us people, others go off about how we are a dying ocean. When something is dying, do you let it die*? No, you try to revive it, and that's what we are doing. Malachitians are the most passionate players in the game, and I'm proud to be a part of that group.



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The same number of greenies get spawned on the blue oceans. They just don't stay there, apparently.

More subscription players need to realize this. Extra reality points for you, sir. The subscription model simply is not attractive to the majority of gamers, especially with a doubloon model right next door.

Right now on Malachite, there are 119 greenies out of 227 players. That is absurd. Anybody who thinks that that is a sustainable ratio is fooling himself. I know it sucks to have played somewhere for so long only to have the population not support your long-term goals, but you have to admit at some point that it's just not working out. Otherwise, you're just a hipster who's too cool for the other oceans, in which case I don't care about you because you're a hipster :3

This game is about having fun, not about reviving failed experiments (unless of course you find that fun - I don't, neither does Ambur). This really would be no issue if you made Malachite (or Midnight, Cobalt, whatever) more fun to play, as there would be no reason for players to abandon it for another ocean. The fact that you're so outraged shows that you expect players to leave. That's why you've lost already.

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Right now on Malachite, there are 119 greenies out of 227 players. That is absurd. Anybody who thinks that that is a sustainable ratio is fooling himself.


Congratulations on a serious post, Goatie (I lubs me yer lolols), but you are making one of the fundamental errors (not as bad as committing to a land war in Asia, but still).

Greenies, by definition, are very new players. A sustainable ratio, by definition, is not exponential. In fact, the only design problem YPP has is that eventually sufficient experience leads many players to wail over the fact they can't load their frigate whenever they want.

Gamers will understand there is an influx, and whether they give the game 5 minutes or 5 hours before giving up on it OR deciding to "commit"... it's the gameplay, stoopid ;)
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