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Grandmasta_

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Help stop the bilge bots D:

Bilge botters are getting to be a nuisance. I'm tired of trying to get ultimate bilge but always getting stuck on GM even when i get consistant increds/excellents. I belive its the fact there are still many bilge botters out there. Hell today I was doing some gunning wiff teh navy and saw a guy bilging, I decided to check his stats and then BAM. He has novice/able in everything. yet.. He Has weighty/Legendary in bilging. I sent him a tell numerous times and still no answer, so I of course /complained him. I'm wondering if yall can help out a tiny bit? if you suspect somebody bilge botting, dont hesitate to complain on that person. cause this is just getting ridiculous >:(
kthxbai
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Re: Help stop the bilge bots D:

 
Bilge botters are getting to be a nuisance. I'm tired of trying to get ultimate bilge but always getting stuck on GM even when i get consistant increds/excellents. I belive its the fact there are still many bilge botters out there. Hell today I was doing some gunning wiff teh navy and saw a guy bilging, I decided to check his stats and then BAM. He has novice/able in everything. yet.. He Has weighty/Legendary in bilging. I sent him a tell numerous times and still no answer, so I of course /complained him. I'm wondering if yall can help out a tiny bit? if you suspect somebody bilge botting, dont hesitate to complain on that person. cause this is just getting ridiculous >:(
kthxbai


You need consistant increds basically to keep Ult, bilge scoring is pretty high on Virid therefore harder to get ult. Also not everyone that has only a bilge stat is a botter, as some people make alts to enjoy one puzzle.
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Re: Help stop the bilge bots D:

I thought our OMs already pwned bilge botters?
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Re: Help stop the bilge bots D:

^ 2 incorrect replies. Correct reply:


Didn't you just quit?
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Re: Help stop the bilge bots D:

So maybe he's back...I expect many people leave for a bit when they are tired of the game and return when it's fresh again.
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Ok...I don't think you can do anything about bilge botting yourself. /complain is really tricky, because it's essentially impossible to prove - as VMIUD previously stated, people create alts to bilge because they like the puzzle or want to practice it. To that end the only thing 'we' can do is keep bilging. Right?

My ult was reached on pretty much only Vegases...I've never found Bingoes/Sea Donkeys able to boost the score enough to hold incred consistently before you set up the next combo, at least in the long run.

If you are really dedicated to getting your bilging standing up, try to have shorter sessions. Long blockade rounds won't do much good. Rapid pillages or the navy are good. Multitasking bilging during SMH with Treasure Haul (make sure to not TH to the break because your DI will get reset) is good too.

Other than that, it's about patience and choosing the right environment to practice trying to boost your standing in.
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Re: Help stop the bilge bots D:

There's more than one kind of bilge bot. There's currently new ones at work. Same with a few other puzzles.
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Re: Help stop the bilge bots D:

Ouch, that's unfortunate. I'm not sure there's anything that Grandmasta can do to combat bilge botting himself directly if he wants to achieve Ultimate though. I wasn't aware /complain was supposed to be used like that (the situation mentioned in his post).
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Re: Help stop the bilge bots D:

Just be better than the bilge bots then. >.>
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Re: Help stop the bilge bots D:

 
I thought our OMs already pwned bilge botters?


It's been 2 years since the mass-ban on bilge botters. I think that is enough time for people to make better ones...
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Re: Help stop the bilge bots D:

 
 
I thought our OMs already pwned bilge botters?


It's been 2 years since the mass-ban on bilge botters. I think that is enough time for people to make better ones...


There are multiple ones atm. The only problem I saw with the mass purge was that there were multiple people who didnt bot that did get banned. With anything there OS a small margin for error, but there was afew hundred botters banned, I know of a dozen odd that didn't bot... Not bad odds in the end. You will never stop botting, the best we can all do is try and limit the spread and damage.
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Re: Help stop the bilge bots D:

 
Ok...I don't think you can do anything about bilge botting yourself. /complain is really tricky, because it's essentially impossible to prove

Didn't they massivly ban people who didn't use their mouse to bilge? I have to agree that getting Ult bilge on Viridean takes some time if your not super pro at it from the start.

It took me up to Expert to eventually get it after watching some Youtube video's on how to bilge on the Ultimate lvl. Then from Expert it took me up to Illustrious to get it back, and even now I end up losing it. I gess it's because I'm more of a bingo/donkey bilger, rather then a non stop Vegas nutter.

Botting is for losers.
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Re: Help stop the bilge bots D:

Thanks guys, and yes i DID quit for like a day, its called "rage quit" cause of poker but i came back deciding not to really poker as much as i have been. ill just pilly and buy dubs wiff muh credit card :P
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Re: Help stop the bilge bots D:

 
You will never stop botting, the best we can all do is try and limit the spread and damage.

Not necessarily. The massive bot/hack bans we've seen in the past have been based on a common popular program. Cheat detection overall is better off if more people are using fewer programs that are more widely available than people using a variety of different programs, particularly private programs. If a program is going around, it's more easily acquired and dissected by whoever does cheat detection and less work is required to catch more players. I do understand that delaying the fix of a problem may cause disillusionment of certain players leading to them botting as well, but that happened last time as well and it's something that has to be accepted. It's their own fault for succumbing to it anyway.
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Re: Help stop the bilge bots D:

It's worth pointing out that if you run across solid evidence of a particular bot program, you should probably inform the developers so they can look into it. They aren't necessarily aware of every single cheat available.
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Re: Help stop the bilge bots D:

They do tend to monitor the most popular places for finding those sorts of programs.

Credit where credit is due, OOOs are good at keeping up with people trying to find ways to manipulate the game client or play the game via a bot or script.
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Re: Help stop the bilge bots D:

 
^ 2 incorrect replies. Correct reply:


Didn't you just quit?

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Re: Help stop the bilge bots D:

If you see a bilge bot, you wont see him the next day, trust me =D
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Re: Help stop the bilge bots D:

 
^ 2 incorrect replies. Correct reply:


Didn't you just quit?



Idealy speaking. I dont see sunlight i'd rather sit and make dock blockers because i cannot socialise in any other way
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Re: Help stop the bilge bots D:

^ the worst troll ever commenting on the best troll ever
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Re: Help stop the bilge bots D:

 
 
^ 2 incorrect replies. Correct reply:


Didn't you just quit?



Idealy speaking. I dont see sunlight i'd rather sit and make dock blockers because i cannot socialise in any other way


Ideally, you could spell ideally correctly.
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Re: Help stop the bilge bots D:

The best way to stop botting is, if you come across a bot program, tip off the OMs (through a petition or support form email, I guess?) so they can have a look at it and improve their detection systems. If the high level bilging is really being done by bots, they're quite clever, so I guess few of them are home grown and therefore if OOO can find the places they are offered they can catch lots of people in one go.

I think it's hard to get ult because the high end bilging pirates have worked out how to score almost optimally, though.
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Re: Help stop the bilge bots D:

Bilge better.

I'ma parade around on broad/ult alts wherever this guy is, now. And ignore his tells.
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Re: Help stop the bilge bots D:

Woah woah lemme get this straight...

So people , or rather , pixels , are bilge botters cuhs they choose to concentrate on bilging instead of reading the chat ?

Kay , guess I'm a botter then . Sue me .
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Re: Help stop the bilge bots D:

 
Woah woah lemme get this straight...

So people , or rather , pixels , are bilge botters cuhs they choose to concentrate on bilging instead of reading the chat ?

Kay , guess I'm a botter then . Sue me .

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Re: Help stop the bilge bots D:

You legitly wanted to stop bilge botters while trying to buy bots yourself? XD

Have a giggle guys http://buypoe.com/members/grandmasta_.html

Ps: Thank you for pointing this out to me, you know who you are ;).
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Re: Help stop the bilge bots D:

Wow, that site provides guides to breaking the ToS and barnacle :(

It's pretty sad to see there are a substantial number of people on that forum.
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Re: Help stop the bilge bots D:

I think its even sadder you can find well-known players in that site too, but not going to lie Grandmastas post wanting to buy distilling, sailing and rigging bots were the highlight.
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Re: Help stop the bilge bots D:

HAHAHAHA, BUSTED.....
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Re: Help stop the bilge bots D:

Ouch.
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Re: Help stop the bilge bots D:

Man this website is just sad.
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