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I cannot get the seal of January, which means that i cannot get the seal of winter, nor the seal of 2011. I have a wager ban which makes it so i cannot wager inside any games, and that includes skeletons and zombies. When i signed up for this, i knew that i would not have this ability but doing something that requires me to bet, I believe is unfair. when i had looked into it, i had made sure that none-few seals required this and the last one was October, 2009 so i believed it was not going to happen again. I have asked if I can get the ban temporary removed or if i could just receive the trophy. From these wagering bans being for so few players, i may be the only one who thinks this is a problem... any comments?
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I've not made many of the seals due to RL, lack of skill at required puzzles etc, there will always be some obstacles. This months seal I only got because I'm lucky to have such a good hearty network that sends me /tells about where the frays are at. I don't mind, it's nice to make friends along the way :)
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I don't care for trophies so it wouldn't mean much for me, but when you asked for the wager ban you knew it would be permanent and would stop you from participating fully in the game, just like you can't get poker trophies.

And the fact that it has happened before where you were required to bet should of told you that it was likely to happen again.
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I don't care for trophies so it wouldn't mean much for me, but when you asked for the wager ban you knew it would be permanent and would stop you from participating fully in the game, just like you can't get poker trophies.

And the fact that it has happened before where you were required to bet should of told you that it was likely to happen again.

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Yep, there's already a whole stack of trophies you can't get relating to the wagered parlour games (well I guess technically you could still get ult hearts/spades but I've never seen an unwagered game).

The wager ban is supposed to be a drastic and final solution. If you are so bad at self control that you need it, it's probably best that you don't get addicted to trophies either ;)
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I wonder if skellies and zombies still count as gambling. There's no random win/loss of items anymore, just a 100 PoE playing fee every few minutes. It's little different than taking a certain value of stock and booty into pillage fights.

I suppose it matters less how much they charge and more whether they trigger the addiction....
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I think in this case it probably matters more whether they use the same chunk of the gamecode to begin the fight....
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I'd almost go post a thread in GD suggestion it gets reclassified, but then you get into murky waters of what defines gambling, and you're better being safe than being sorry, and certainly better being stalwart than being finicky, when you're choosing to ban yourself from gambling.
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Been kicked from four frays in a row while ZZZers get in. This is some bullshit.
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Been kicked from four frays in a row while ZZZers get in. This is some bullshit.



heheh Can't wait to see Ian's response when the straightliner gets the map lol...
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I'd almost go post a thread in GD suggestion it gets reclassified, but then you get into murky waters of what defines gambling, and you're better being safe than being sorry, and certainly better being stalwart than being finicky, when you're choosing to ban yourself from gambling.


I would say a fight against skellies or zombies would be more under the definition of skill than gambling.
Thing being they call it a wager ban and not a gambling ban.
Personally I'd be all for changing the wager bab so as it allows the person to obtain the seals through skellie/zombie fights.
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Ahh, but the question on if poker is a game of chance or a game of skill depends largely on how good the person you are asking is at poker.
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I'm lucky to be skilled at poker :)
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Poker is poker, and I'd rather be lucky than skilled ;D
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Poker is poker, and I'd rather be lucky than skilled ;D


Tee hee. Funny thing is, the bigger the table (more players), and looser the play (more people likely to call the opening and see the flop), the more important luck is.

Even a pair of 2's is great in a two person poker game. But if you had 1,000 people, then even a pair of A's is unlikely to win. Straight/flush or full house dominates at that point, and the flop seems (as far as I can tell) to be more important than the pocket at that point.

Now, since YPP seems to have mostly 10 person tables, instead of 6, and looser play (more callers), this seems to be relevant.
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Tee hee. Funny thing is, the bigger the table (more players), and looser the play (more people likely to call the opening and see the flop), the more important luck is.

Even a pair of 2's is great in a two person poker game. But if you had 1,000 people, then even a pair of A's is unlikely to win. Straight/flush or full house dominates at that point, and the flop seems (as far as I can tell) to be more important than the pocket at that point.

Now, since YPP seems to have mostly 10 person tables, instead of 6, and looser play (more callers), this seems to be relevant.

In the short term, luck always dominates. In the long term, skill always does. AA vs. 9 random hands will only win approximately 30% of the time. On any given hand, you're more likely to lose than win. But once you do win, you now have ten times the amount of money you started with. Now, in order to go broke, you'd have to lose ten straight pots with a 30% chance. The odds of that happening? (.7)^10, which is less than 3%

In other words, play conservative within your bankroll, not ever risking too much of your total net worth on any one hand, and so long as you can get all-in with the best hand more often than your opponents, you will succeed.
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Poker is poker, and I'd rather be lucky than skilled ;D

Even a pair of 2's is great in a two person poker game. But if you had 1,000 people, then even a pair of A's is unlikely to win. Straight/flush or full house dominates at that point, and the flop seems (as far as I can tell) to be more important than the pocket at that point.

Actually, it'd be impossible to win with anything like a full house in a 1,000 person game as that would require at least 2,008 cards and there are only 52 in the deck. Twenty-two people would be the most you could have with a standard deck (44 pocket cards, 5 table cards and 3 burns.)
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Poker is poker, and I'd rather be lucky than skilled ;D

Even a pair of 2's is great in a two person poker game. But if you had 1,000 people, then even a pair of A's is unlikely to win. Straight/flush or full house dominates at that point, and the flop seems (as far as I can tell) to be more important than the pocket at that point.

Actually, it'd be impossible to win with anything like a full house in a 1,000 person game as that would require at least 2,008 cards and there are only 52 in the deck. Twenty-two people would be the most you could have with a standard deck (44 pocket cards, 5 table cards and 3 burns.)


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