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After so many posts in threads One and Two; it looks like it's time for a new thread. Speculations that have been previously proved have been moved to the YPPedia page.

To quote from the original threads, which are now locked:

Ahoy! To keep Tips & Tricks from being flooded, and to reduce accidental spoilers, all discussion and speculation regarding Trophies should be placed in this thread.

To clarify, in line with our forums spoiler policy only those trophies found in a player's trophy collection in-game should be discussed. Images or names of trophies not found in-game and in a player's trophy collection should not be posted in this thread or on the forums.

Happy Hunting!
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Thank you for making a new thread when the old one had 2727 replies. I appreciate the nice number.
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Weee second post on a thread that contiues to grow

btw nice wording for the dread masterpiece! :DD
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I can remember a theory a while back that said the Cursed Forager was awarded for scoring 100points in foraging if you were to consider a Bone Box 1point, Fetish Jar 2points and a Cursed Chest as 3points. I believe this was discounted because it was so tedious.

Can I point out that this 1, 2 and 3 is directly proportionate to the volume of the three chests. 2litres for a Bone Box, 4litres for a Fetish Jar and 6litres for a Cursed Chest.

Could it be assumed that the Cursed Forager is awarded for "Foraging 200 litres of goods from withing the Cursed Isles."

I don't think anyone discounted it, I think everyone just kind of decided to exhaust the simpler theories first. It's looking to me like the theory is onto something though, and I like how you've simplified the wording.

Anyway back to discussions...

Could we compile a list of people who have the Cursed Forager and then compare their own views on the trophy?
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Can I point out that this 1, 2 and 3 is directly proportionate to the volume of the three chests. 2litres for a Bone Box, 4litres for a Fetish Jar and 6litres for a Cursed Chest.


Umm... 2D objects don't have volume. You're thinking of area I assume, which you'd measure in units². Either way, I have no idea how you get that a 1x1 box contains 2 litres, 2 units², or 2 anything. It's 1 square unit.

Anyway, I'm find it unlikely that that the height of the boxes has anything to do with it. For the duty reports it's the width, which makes sense. I don't see why the trophies would be any different.
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Umm... 2D objects don't have volume. You're thinking of area I assume, which you'd measure in units². Either way, I have no idea how you get that a 1x1 box contains 2 litres, 2 units², or 2 anything. It's 1 square unit.




Just like the hold screen the "Inspect booty" screen lists the virtual mass and the virtual volume of the virtual commodities in the booty, prior to division. Since chests are commodities, they have a volume and a mass.
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Oooooh right. I thought I was going crazy.
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Plus, otherwise a 2x2 would be worth four times as much as a 1x1.
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Ok, so to say that the number is X, we'd compile a list of numbers, using all the theories so far?

 

If it is total number of crates, then the trigger must be 73-74
It cannot be the total number of BB foraged
If it is total number of FJ then the trigger must be 13
It cannot be the total number of CC foraged
If it is total number of forage sessions then the trigger must be 8 sessions
If it using the foraging scoring point system, then then trigger must be 96-101
If it is total number of trips, then the trigger must be 2


I'll start the hard part. I foraged 6 times as of mine. I don't remember exact numbers, but I'd guess it was 5-7BB per, 2-3 FJ per, and I got a total of 3 CCs

Here, I'll add up: 63-87 would be the points

Total Number would be: 45-63

In volume, the numbers would be: 105-165 (in volume).

So the last is a pretty big range, but I'd guess that it is about 150.

Also, I'd had some more theories. I'll quote here =)
 
Now, I don't know exact on the other two, but could it be X number of CC stuck? If so, it is 3, btw. Or could it be X number on screen but not cleared? (Harder to find)


Lastly, I was wondering if we are ABSOLUTELY positive about the enlightened eradicator? Because I'm pretty sure I've not done 50 frays. I'll go check, though, and edit after (I got it like 2 frays ago..and days..)
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Yes someone posted on the wiki page that 50 can't be the number of frays required. Also the description should clearify on wether ship frays count.
"50 winning frays within the Cursed Isles"
Could mean both to me - as in on the board rather than only on the island.

About the cursed and Hexed Forager we could put something like: Unknown criteria related to chests found during foraging on the cursed islands
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Yes someone posted on the wiki page that 50 can't be the number of frays required. Also the description should clearify on wether ship frays count.
"50 winning frays within the Cursed Isles"
Could mean both to me - as in on the board rather than only on the island.

About the cursed and Hexed Forager we could put something like: Unknown criteria related to chests found during foraging on the cursed islands


I'll get the # after I do some literature.. And mine will be only on the isle. Didn't win any otherwise, I don' think (I'll look and see if I won one before I sank my first ship)

We don't KNOW that it is related to the chests, but are we positive about the foraging part? We could add that =)
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This'll be long, hence the double.. Sorry

My chat logs wrote: 
[18:21:07] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster
[18:26:58] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster,
[18:34:20] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster,
[15:31:16] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster
[15:37:10] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster,
[15:44:13] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster,
[16:58:24] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster,
[17:03:54] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster,
[17:11:06] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster,
[19:28:32] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster,
[19:35:18] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster,
[19:41:11] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster,
[19:48:28] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster,
[12:56:32] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster.
[13:08:38] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster.
[17:53:16] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster.
[18:06:22] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster.
[18:14:06] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster.
[19:12:42] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster.
[19:20:05] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster.
[20:14:39] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster.
[16:06:48] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster.
[16:13:20] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster.
[16:20:15] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster.
[21:51:58] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster.
[22:04:13] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster.
[22:12:30] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster.
[16:15:23] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster.
[16:23:54] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster.
[16:31:12] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster.
[11:59:02] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster.
[12:08:28] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster.
[12:16:03] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster.
[15:22:06] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster.
[15:29:37] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster.
[15:36:16] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster.
[16:14:39] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster.
[16:22:21] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster.
[16:29:44] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster.
[20:08:30] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster.
[20:14:37] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster.
[20:21:17] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster.
[21:12:42] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster.
[21:20:11] Game over. Winners: PadmeMaster.
[21:27:11] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster.
[21:29:11] Ye have been awarded the Cursed Forager!
[21:34:06] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster.
[21:41:51] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster.
[21:34:20] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster.
[21:41:34] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster.
[21:48:47] Game over. Winners: Padmemaster.


I bolded the point I received the Cursed forager on and it is 50 total frays, got the EE after that last... So.. it IS 50 after all or?
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If I received a trophy due to a glitch which has been fixed (and my trophy removed) am I allowed to post information about it? Because I am 90% sure I know the requirement for Cursed Forager and EE.
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I would say not, but those who "must know" can always PM you and then test the theory.
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I believe the points method is still the most valid and 100 points get you one of those trophies...just not sure which
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Look i got the Cursed Forager on abouts my 15th fray or less i've only been to Ci about 5 times and 4 times i got out seccessfully...the other i sunk

Hope that helps :D:D
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I think that there should be trophies for memming,

Golden Chart - 100%
Silver Chart - 75%
Bronze Chart - 50%
Old Chart - 25%
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Speculation, not suggestions.
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Yes someone posted on the wiki page that 50 can't be the number of frays required. Also the description should clearify on wether ship frays count.
"50 winning frays within the Cursed Isles"
Could mean both to me - as in on the board rather than only on the island.


I'm a bit surprised this is still going, I'll repeat again that I counted exactly 50 winning frays (both zombies and cultists together). Shipwides did not (!) count to this.
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Ive been in CI hundreds of times, and always perform well at foraging.

I do not have the Hexed forager yet. I got cursed forager 1 day after it was released
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I think that there should be trophies for memming,

Golden Chart - 100%
Silver Chart - 75%
Bronze Chart - 50%
Old Chart - 25%


Trophy suggestion thread is in game degisn.
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Yes someone posted on the wiki page that 50 can't be the number of frays required. Also the description should clearify on wether ship frays count.
"50 winning frays within the Cursed Isles"
Could mean both to me - as in on the board rather than only on the island.


I'm a bit surprised this is still going, I'll repeat again that I counted exactly 50 winning frays (both zombies and cultists together). Shipwides did not (!) count to this.


Mine includes a ship-wide. But yes, upon taking 3 hours to count (2 months of chat logs is killer) I got 50, also
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Talking about something else,
I want to know more about the Second Level trophies for tokens.
Taking as exemple let's take Oaken token of bilge to the Water token.
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The Oaken one need 100 tokens total by getting a Fine/Good at the report right? The Water token seems to have a Fine/Good number too by the way they're shown at the YPPedia. But i tested it, it isnt 200.....1000 either...could it be > 2000 or I'm tryin the wrong way?
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Talking about something else,
I want to know more about the Second Level trophies for tokens.
Taking as exemple let's take Oaken token of bilge to the Water token.
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The Oaken one need 100 tokens total by getting a Fine/Good at the report right? The Water token seems to have a Fine/Good number too by the way they're shown at the YPPedia. But i tested it, it isnt 200.....1000 either...could it be > 2000 or I'm tryin the wrong way?


I'm thinking, this is just speculation, that they are similar to the crab trophies, but they skip the 1000.

So my idea is that it is 100, 5000, 15000

I'm counting extremely carefully the carp level 2 tokens for Towers of Wood. So we will see when we get there.
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No way in hell have I been in 50 frays on my alt that has Cursed Forager. I've only been in about 5 CIs with him, and he got it on the 3rd trip. All those trips were single entries where we never did more than 5 frays, and the 2nd one being an entry where we did 2 frays and got kicked out cause we lost the 3rd fray. None were ship wides. so the total couldn't have been more than 12.

Although I do clear ALOT of crates when I forage, so the 100 points thing is more a possibility from my perspective, seeing as though I've got quite a few ult foraging alts.
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No way in hell have I been in 50 frays on my alt that has Cursed Forager. I've only been in about 5 CIs with him, and he got it on the 3rd trip. All those trips were single entries where we never did more than 5 frays, and the 2nd one being an entry where we did 2 frays and got kicked out cause we lost the 3rd fray. None were ship wides. so the total couldn't have been more than 12.

Although I do clear ALOT of crates when I forage, so the 100 points thing is more a possibility from my perspective, seeing as though I've got quite a few ult foraging alts.


Maybe it is toatl by account? Is you alt on yhe same account as your main?
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I believe the Cursed Forager is 100 litres of goods brought on board.

I've gone to CI twice with one of my alts and she already has the Cursed Forager after her 4th forage. I didn't get screen shots, but from how I counted it them it was less than 50 boxes, but I know I was pulling in the larger chests.
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No way in hell have I been in 50 frays on my alt that has Cursed Forager.

Sorry, I think you're mixing the trophies up mate.
The trophies that are based on frays are the Cultist Crusher (5 - your alt has this, right?) and the Enlightened Eradicator (50).
Cursed Forager is still under speculation, and it's good that your foraging data probably fits with what we know so far :)
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from what i believe alesandro guesstimated it was 100/5000/15000 and from what i remember festrunk hit his 2nd tier at around 5000 or so ish. His 3rd tier carp im also assuming it was 15000 since it would be silly to go 100/5000/10000.

Alesandro on viridian has the 3rd tier set of trophies for bilge and is currently working on the good set i believe so might want to check with him. Once i have my 2nd tier ill count from there till i hit the 3rd tier so we can at least verify the number from tier 2-3. Wonder who will hit the oaken token of the pump first.
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