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Per the posts here, here, and originally here, and based on an original concept by Stuyvesant; I hereby announce the official organization of the first ever inter-ocean blockade tournament between the oceans of Midnight and Viridian. Sage, Cobalt, and Hunter hold on to your hats, if this works well we may go on tour.

I've decided that since I probably won't be on the blockade board for either side (I MUST broadcast this for Shanty Raid-io. T'will be so much fun.) that I shall remain an impartial and unbiased coordinator of this event.

The rules are as follows but are subject to change over the course of time as I converse with the eventual leaders of the 2 teams.
  • This tournament will be a best of three: One on Midnight, one on Viridian, and a tie breaker if necessary on Ice.
  • Each team from each ocean will be composed of no more than 300 pre-determined individuals. Any team sporting more than 300 on the day of the blockade will forfeit the match and their chance at the inter-ocean crown.
  • Because we are dealing with both a home team and an away team, I feel ship numbers should be restricted. Suty posted in his thread that he has numerous brigs and frigs that could be loaned to the Viridianites when they cross over for the Midnight blockade, I assume the same can be afforded the Midnighters when they cross over for the Viridian blockade. Ship numbers will be restricted to no more than 20 brigs, 20 frigs, and as many sloops and cutters as they can fill per team for each blockade. With a limited number of ships, strategy and usage will play an important part of the challenge as well as the on board activity.
  • Stock donations will made to the best of the ability by interested parties to the visiting teams however they may need to subsidize these donations by earning some money on that ocean and purchasing their own. There will be no limitations on the amount of rum or shot a team may have.
  • Each team will declare an admiral. This will be the public face of the team responsible for assigning navvers, XO's, quartermasters and other blockade associated type positions. They will also be my liaisons to the teams and keep the teams updated over the course of these proceedings.
  • The new event blockade mechanism due to hit production oceans possibly in the coming weeks will be used to enact these blockades. As such and mostly because the visitors will be using borrowed ships, these blockades will be non-sinking unless both parties unanimously agree that they are ok with it being sinking.
  • Because of the above point regarding the use of new event blockades, the exact date for the first round will not be set until this release hits the production oceans and is proven to be relatively bug free.
  • Viridian players are encouraged to save up some dubs and use them to purchase a 1 month subscription to overlap the time of the Midnight blockade so that officer privileges are not an issue. Likewise, Midnighters are encouraged to earn enough money on Viridan to purchase some dubs for an officer badge to overlap the time of the Viridian blockade. If it is completely impossible for a player to do so and they will need to be ranked officer for the blockade, I will personally gift them a month's subscription or buy them enough dubs for an officer badge. PM me for more details if you fall under the above category.


Those are the basic rules. What's the prize you say? Why the greatest thing of all:

Glory and Supreme Bragging Rights!

Worth the whole ordeal, isn't it? In addition to that, I will petition the events staff of Three Rings to see if we can get some sort of team prize trinket and/or other prize for the ocean that wins.

Watch this thread for more updates. Any and all questions about the overall event can be PM'd to me and I will answer them in as timely a manner as physically possible.

People who wish to participate please contact Admiral Stuyvesant (StuManchu on the forums) to sign up for a position on the Midnight team.

People who wish to participate please contact Admiral Desmagicus (Juventus1 on the forums) to sign up for a position on the Viridian team.

Special thanks, kudos, congrats, and numerous grazies to Suty for the original idea and allowing me to approch the logistics of this event without beheading me for nearly sniping it from him.

Yours in utter anticipation of a truly amazing conflict,
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Can't we get some Magicky OM goodness on the ships? For the visiting team on each ocean, and for both on Ice? Infact, would be pretty cool to get magicky goodness for an equal, predermined number of ships for both sides for all three matches - All Team Midnight ships to be "Midnight <fishname>" and Team Viderain Viridian ships to be "Viridian <fishname>".

Other magicking needs:
* Predetermined amount of (SUBSTANTIAL) rum and shot, as per ship type, for both sides.
* Badge/subscriber benefits for those participating for the duration of the blockades on the relevent oceans.
* Turn off other blockades on relevent oceans for that weekend.
* Event flags created for the blockades - Midnight Glory and Viridian Pride (or something)
* Trinkets for the winning side.
* A page on the wiki for the event, declaring the winning ocean victors, and holders of the cup, an annual tournament.

/e runs off humming the Mortal Kombat theme.
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After reading the post, I see three points that sparked my interest. I see a bit of a problem with the Ice tie breaker; it heavily favors subscribers. The blockade on Midnight requires some people to subscribe, but a blockade on Ice requires all to either have purchased doubloons recently or be subscribed. I feel Viridian will have a small turnout on Ice.

Also, I like the idea of blockades being turned off that weekend. Viridian could become a very active ocean that weekend if many Viridianites are off to blockade on another ocean or off blockading at the event blockade island. I dont know about you, but my flag's "Viridian pride" will probably take a back seat to an assault on any or all of our islands.

My third point is about ship numbers. I see the reason for a lower number of ships, but Im a bit skeptical about two points. Maybe its a Viridian thing, but Im used to seeing at least 3 frigs on the board per side at all times and maybe 1-2 brigs to accompany them. Cutters are rarely ever seen on a Viridian blockade. Maybe Im just used to a larger amount of frigs over brigs, or maybe these numbers are to allow more strategy to go into the blockade. My second point draws from the part about, "as many sloops as they can fill per team for each blockade" seems to be a bit unspecified. A sloop for the Admiral would be reasonable, but I know I have no sloops on Midnight, and Im sure not too many Midnighters have tons of sloops on Viridian. Some how, this feels like a slight home team advantage (however, sloops are pretty close to being useless inside a blockade board anyways).

Just some points I wanted to bring up. Im sure none of the rules are yet set in stone, and a good discussion on the structure, rules or any other concepts or ideas about this event would be good to work out before hand.
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StillMyst wrote: 
Can't we get some Magicky OM goodness on the ships? For the visiting team on each ocean, and for both on Ice? Infact, would be pretty cool to get magicky goodness for an equal, predermined number of ships for both sides for all three matches - All Team Midnight ships to be "Midnight <fishname>" and Team Viderain Viridian ships to be "Viridian <fishname>".

Other magicking needs:
* Predetermined amount of (SUBSTANTIAL) rum and shot, as per ship type, for both sides.
* Badge/subscriber benefits for those participating for the duration of the blockades on the relevent oceans.
* Turn off other blockades on relevent oceans for that weekend.
* Event flags created for the blockades - Midnight Glory and Viridian Pride (or something)
* Trinkets for the winning side.
* A page on the wiki for the event, declaring the winning ocean victors, and holders of the cup, an annual tournament.

/e runs off humming the Mortal Kombat theme.

<If> they give an inch, we ask for a mile.

Blockades on relevant oceans though, that's kind of a requirement to really get this to happen.

The rest, meh. Nice to have, but really who cares. And wiki is user editable.
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This may be hard because Many of us do not have ships on Viridian/Midnight/Ice (Depending which ocean your from) and many of us have not subscribed our bought doubs with money IRL. So I don't know how thats going to work. But it would be awesome if we could get a private server or something..
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I vote Desmagicus or Molerman for the Viridian Admiral. All opposed?
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As much as I love the idea of a trinket or trophy going to the winners, since it is predetermined who the members will be, it's not quite fair for those not participating won't have the chance to recieve one. However, due to the large amount of people going to play I would like to see something of this nature even if it's a Viridian vs. Midnight trophy that everyone gets for participating, since bragging rights are more important to me than a trophy or trinket.
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I think it'd be great if every pirate on Midnight and Viridian got a trinket that would always remind them who the winner was.
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Uh, when I said "you can help me organize" I didn't mean "please snipe my event idea" poopface.

And your ship numbers are horribly horribly low.
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Uh, when I said "you can help me organize" I didn't mean "please snipe my event idea" poopface.

And your ship numbers are horribly horribly low.


Well, you can't be pro Midnight and run the event. I thought this was a great way of running it, although I think more credit to Suty woud be nice.
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I think this is a wonderful place to keep the idea of this event and get feedback on it. Especially since it hasn't been done before, feedback and opinions from players can help flesh out the details. Any good event organizer would do that.
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Ok, so here's the update:

My first problem was a major mistake and I fully take responsibility for it: I forgot to ask Suty before I posted. I would never dream of sniping his event from him but I tried to multi-task too many things and failed to ask him as I should have.

I have since been in contact and he's given me the go ahead to run the logistics of the events so with his blessing I have altered the first post to reflect his original concept of the idea.

Also, per numerous suggestions on my ship numbers, I've expanded the maximums for teams to 20 brigs, 20 frigs, and as many cutters and sloops as they want.

For any questions regarding the general logistics of the event, you can PM me and I'll try to answer them.

To sign up for the Midnight team, PM Stuyvesant (StuManchu on the forums) with your request and possibly your preferred position.

To sign up for the Viridian team, PM Desmagicus (Juventus1 on the forums) with your request and possibly your preferred position.

My deepest apologies to the community and to Suty personally for jumping the gun on this one. This is why you never ever get me excited, I go all crazy with stuff.

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Could you explain how people from Viridian are supposed to get ships on Midnight, and how Midnight people are supposed to get ships on Viridian, and both for Ice? It would be very hard to do get the desired amount of ships in time for the blockade.
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Could you explain how people from Viridian are supposed to get ships on Midnight, and how Midnight people are supposed to get ships on Viridian, and both for Ice? It would be very hard to do get the desired amount of ships in time for the blockade.


I believe (and he can kick my ass if I'm wrong) Stuy is offering to put up Viridian ships on Midnight (or at the very least help) and is looking to find a Viridian leader to do the same for Midnight to come over there.

We are each being asked to provide our own means of subscription/doubs...the argument being that for one month subscrition purchased with Doubloons, any average player should be able to pillage/win enough poe with moderat effort..just as any Midnighter should have no problem pillaging on Viridian enough to buy the doubs to pay for the badges they may need for our visit there.
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Could you explain how people from Viridian are supposed to get ships on Midnight, and how Midnight people are supposed to get ships on Viridian, and both for Ice? It would be very hard to do get the desired amount of ships in time for the blockade.


Donations from the home team mostly. It's already been discussed in Suty's Midnight thread.

Me above wrote: 
Because we are dealing with both a home team and an away team, I feel ship numbers should be restricted. Suty posted in his thread that he has numerous brigs and frigs that could be loaned to the Viridianites when they cross over for the Midnight blockade, I assume the same can be afforded the Midnighters when they cross over for the Viridian blockade. Ship numbers will be restricted to no more than 20 brigs, 20 frigs, and as many sloops and cutters as they can fill per team for each blockade. With a limited number of ships, strategy and usage will play an important part of the challenge as well as the on board activity.


Also, if it comes to an Ice tie breaker, it's gonna be sloops only (not definite yet) so as to make things interesting.

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I think it'd be great if every pirate on Midnight and Viridian got a trinket that would always remind them who the winner was.

I don't know if this was sarcasm or not, but in my terms of everyone who participated a trophy would just say Viridian vs. Midnight... not stating who the winner was. It would be kind of a trophy to show you were there not whether you win or lose....

As to people PM to sign up, does this also count to people Suty said was already on Midnight's side? He started a list but does this mean he's starting a new one? I just need some clarification.
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As to people PM to sign up, does this also count to people Suty said was already on Midnight's side? He started a list but does this mean he's starting a new one? I just need some clarification.


Pretty sure he's got a continuously running one since the idea was first broached. If you've PM'd him once I believe you're on it.

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Okay, well, keep us up to date on who to PM for viridian
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I will be the official admiral/organizator for the Viridian side, since I kinda started our side of the whole shindig <.<, during the actual blockades Bigbertha and Cyndiepet will be the de facto leaders, because they have more experience and skill. I just talk a lot.

Contact me by PM here or send a /tell in game if you don't have a posting account, though I'd prefer PM. Cheers.

EDIT: Though I hope you've amended your earlier mistake and talked to Suty, aye? This has his permission? I'd feel guilty participating if this wasn't agreed to by the person who started it.
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EDIT: Though I hope you've amended your earlier mistake and talked to Suty, aye? This has his permission? I'd feel guilty participating if this wasn't agreed to by the person who started it.


Yes, I have PM'd him apologizing profusely and asking his permission to continue planning the logistics which he has given.

I did intend to ask prior to posting and I now can't recall why I didn't but I do apologize to any that this offended or confused.

Congrats Des, you're now the Viridian Admiral.

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a trinket would be really cool.. but also like a foutain or some monuement on the ocean that wins. Have it ingraved with.. Interocean Blockade winner 2006 against Mignight..

or something of that sort.

but also a trinket for everyone in the blockade stating what they did on it like.. Winning Sailor of Interocean blockade 2006

something like that.
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I don't know if this was sarcasm or not, but in my terms of everyone who participated a trophy would just say Viridian vs. Midnight... not stating who the winner was. It would be kind of a trophy to show you were there not whether you win or lose....


I should've said "funny" rather than great. I guess I don't think the entire ocean of the losing side should be burdened by a trinket emblazoned with the Piratey equivalent of "<Ocean Name> Rocks." I mean, the griefer in me says "Yes!" but I know that's out of line.
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Um, it might be there but, Sinking or not?
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Ice needs to be sinking
Not that it would come to that...

Further, as for format on Ice, What could be useful would be for the OM's to magic up 2 event flags with a designated number of brigs, held on OM alts so that we get fun sinky sinky ships to play with, yet are unable to be claimed and taken by a player (Or indeed, hand them out as prizes or somthink)

As for rum and shot.... leave it to the players to source (Although at the risk of massivly screwing the what was fragile last time I looked at it economy, boost the Iron and Sugar and Wood spawns....
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These are good suggestions. Keep them coming mates, tell me what you want to see in an inter-ocean blockade tournament.

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These are good suggestions. Keep them coming mates, tell me what you want to see in an inter-ocean blockade tournament.

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A chance for more people to take part.
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These are good suggestions. Keep them coming mates, tell me what you want to see in an inter-ocean blockade tournament.

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A chance for more people to take part.


This I do understand, with the 300 person team limit it's going to make things kind of restrictive however for now that's how it will stay.

1. This is a brand new concept, let's not go too overboard on the first try. Too many people might make it hard to organize.

2. Suty wanted 300 in his original idea, we stick to 300.

If this goes well, and I mean really well, I want to host an all-ocean, all-inclusive tournament to decide who's best out of all 5. Then, we can open it up to anyone and everyone.

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Well to make this event easier, will it be a non-sinking event? because people will be happy to give ships I'm sure if they are going to get them back, as for were the blockade will take place, I guess this would be the event islands on each ocean? so Typhoon and Eclipse.

Also I can see that rum and cannon balls would be a problem so I'm guessing it would have to be magiced up? Or if not a few event pillages before hand to drum up funds on each others oceans.
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personally i think this one needs to be non sinking .. but in the future depending on how this turns out.. we can make it sinking.

this will be like our trial run basically. So 300 people from each side.. limited number of boats then non sinking sounds good.

If its a sinking blockade... my suggestion would be for everyone to have like a entree fee. Because it would be a little unfair for some of those that donate their ships, and not get anything back.. ONLY if its sinking.

otherwise i think each side is responsible for getting their badges.. or subscriptions.
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personally i think this one needs to be non sinking .. but in the future depending on how this turns out.. we can make it sinking.

this will be like our trial run basically. So 300 people from each side.. limited number of boats then non sinking sounds good.

If its a sinking blockade... my suggestion would be for everyone to have like a entree fee. Because it would be a little unfair for some of those that donate their ships, and not get anything back.. ONLY if its sinking.

otherwise i think each side is responsible for getting their badges.. or subscriptions.


I think it's non sinking as the home team has to provide ships, sinking would be unnessicary. Unless the OMs provided ships and sinks were a good way of testing the new trophies.
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