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tcrabby
Joined: Jan 14, 2006 Posts: 624 Status: Offline |
 Here comes Griefer Cottontail, Hoppin' down the blockade trail! Hippity Hoppity, The fleet is on its way. Payin' every lass and mate down to her last piece of eight Things to make your Easter bright and great. He's got trinkets for Grizzled Cole colored eggs for Striking Sue; Defending Ashkelon is the goal, We're all counting on you! Here comes Griefer Cottontail, Hoppin' down the blockade trail! Hippity Hoppity, The fleet is on its way. Look at her work, and listen to her say, "Job with Good Grief, you know you should" Maybe if you're extra good, She'll roll lots of Easter eggs your way. We'll be ready on Easter morning to mount our defense with which to play, so we hope that you'll join us, today! Here comes Griefer Cottontail, Hoppin' down the blockade trail! Hippity Hoppity, The fleet is on its way. Here at GG HQ we want to wish everyone a Happy Easter, and what better way to celebrate than with a blockade with another blockade loving flag like WTF? Keep an eye out for the Griefer Bunny! He'll be hopping from ship to ship to hand out eggs to lucky jobbers and spread Easter cheer. Did you know Good Grief's very own Faeree designed a prize winning egg this year? The Griefer Bunny will be handing out plenty of those in celebration! Word on the street is that the Griefer Bunny will be offering up a chocolate bunny or two as well... In case you're looking for some Easter cheer of another sort, we'll be offering 500/segment! We're looking forward to a great Easter morning with our peeps. Happy Easter to all and good luck WTF, here's to an 'egg'celent blockade! What: Defend Ashkelon Arch When: We'll start jobbing about 7:15 am game time Easter morning JC: JobGG Pay: 500/seg, random eggs, bad puns EDIT! Thanks Tortie for the lyrics ^_^ ---------------------------------------- Scurvycrab Impending Insanity Good Grief
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tigrisiggy
Joined: Oct 13, 2005 Posts: 607 Status: Offline |
The bunnies look terrifying... Nice intent and good luck ----------------------------------------
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queenbuba
Joined: Dec 13, 2005 Posts: 109 Status: Offline |
unicorn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <3 ---------------------------------------- Misst Missterrible officer chats, "I dont understand why we cant wardec the people who call me tart :P" Lobosterazo officer chats, "u wardec liers and shit people, not just peeps saying the true" |
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tcrabby
Joined: Jan 14, 2006 Posts: 624 Status: Offline |
Thank you to all of our friends and allies that came out to job with Good Grief this Easter morning. We had a great time, and we hope you did too. The Griefer Bunny reports he gave out so many Easter Eggs that he won't be able to buy food for his family until next pay check. Thanks to Skymike, Boiwonder, Fixation and Team Grief who showed up early to help out. Our jobbers are always such a hoot...as crazy and wacky as we are >.> Thanks for sticking with us for some fun, even for less pay. Thanks to Tortie for showing up super early to post a killer tournament, even though she couldn't stay for the real fun. Finally thanks to WTF for a fun Easter Blockade. Congrats and enjoy AA! ---------------------------------------- Scurvycrab Impending Insanity Good Grief
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jinxplus1
Joined: Feb 9, 2007 Posts: 525 Status: Offline |
Aye, a thank you to my hearties and our allies for not telling me to stuff it when poked for fb's ;) An rather than repeat, I'll just second what SC said. <3 ---------------------------------------- Jinxplus Captain of Just Because Now flying the flag of Good Grief Randomly appearing on other oceans... |
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Br0kenAngel
Joined: Oct 28, 2006 Posts: 1776 Status: Offline |
How come it is considered sportsmanlike and cool for WTF to drop a chest on Easter, but the same doesn't hold true for others? -BA EDIT: WTF dropped... not "you". But my question still remains, last time someone dropped on you on Easter it was unsportsmanlike, but this time it seems ok... ----------------------------------------
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Why was it ok for EG to pull an island swap with them? Then to drop 4 shoppes with nearly nothing said? Then to have a glorified transfer to ADD? Then to raise pay with a 2-1 jobbing edge at AA? My point is simply that no one cares any more about parley except retired players and Joh. YPP is just online poker with more interesting things to do with your winnings for a large portion of the player base. ---------------------------------------- Jimmynick Captain of Lick'er Cabinet ~ King of Cocktail Party |
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tcrabby
Joined: Jan 14, 2006 Posts: 624 Status: Offline |
Hi BA, this is the first time Good Grief has had an Easter blockade. If you are referring to The Avengers, my previous flag, it was a very different flag, with different leadership and the circumstances of the blockade were very different. ---------------------------------------- Scurvycrab Impending Insanity Good Grief
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Fixated
Joined: May 11, 2007 Posts: 2556 Status: Offline |
I can see both sides of it, honestly. As a heathen agnostic who doesn't celebrate Easter, I see the point of "Well, it's not a holiday for me, why should I be forced to wait?" However, I also see the point of those who have families they have to take care of, hide eggs for, and celebrate with. The entire blockade was one with low jobbing numbers, even when pay started to raise. One of the reasons No Parking didn't blockade this weekend was that it's Easter and besides the fact that most of our staff would be hiding eggs, we just saw it as a bit rude. But to each his own! I think that the point Scurvycrab was going for here was, "nontarty." The blockade itself was fun, even though we had to wake up early for it. ---------------------------------------- Fixation: Captain of Nerdfighteria Island, Princess of It's Complicated. Avatar by the beautiful Gwiddon!! Two camels in a tiny car. |
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daviddavison
Joined: Jan 6, 2007 Posts: 1468 Status: Offline |
 ---------------------------------------- Johanson Royal Pain in the Arse Mostly Retired but go ahead and piss me off so I have a reason to come back and use up all my resources before I go :P And yes I have ships and poes on every ocean so it applies everywhere :P Avatar created by |
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Duck_man2000
Joined: Feb 24, 2006 Posts: 2842 Status: Offline |
It wasnt an island swap, More of a "DUDE MONTAGE ISNT GOV! GIVE HIM KAKRA!" moment.
If people had a problem with it they had just under 2 weeks to tart about it and never actually brought it up until we were dropped on.
There was no transfer, That was an actual blockade.
As explained to a lot of G.G members who we recieved tells from the pay was raised due to the third party, If they had got rid of it we would have dropped the pay. Once people matched us we were getting out shipped so raised pay again. Anymore questions im on vent. Soul ---------------------------------------- Soulsearcher |
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Br0kenAngel
Joined: Oct 28, 2006 Posts: 1776 Status: Offline |
I'm glad you said that because last time, regarding the drop on Easter you said the following:
Based on the bolded part, it didn't matter what flag you were in before, since you were expressing your personal opinion about dropping on Easter. You thought it was "poor form" and that it didn't recognize the "art of sportsmanship." I just find this to epitomize the differences in parley now compared to parley then. Back then, people were willing to say things with 'spin' to garner jobber support and run the risk of making someone else look like the bad guy. Now, it is intents to defend filled with fluffy bunnies. -BA ----------------------------------------
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mads0001
Joined: Jul 22, 2006 Posts: 5987 Status: Offline |
I liked the way she said she never cared for peeps in that thread, and used something with a peeps logo in this one. Also, BA you will never see an intent post from me featuring bunnies. ----------------------------------------
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Br0kenAngel
Joined: Oct 28, 2006 Posts: 1776 Status: Offline |
People's opinions of peeps can change Mads, sheesh.
Of course we won't. We'll just see veiled insults that go over most people's heads. ;) -BA ----------------------------------------
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Burninat0r
Joined: Mar 19, 2006 Posts: 2327 Status: Offline |
OK, I can not resist the tarting you're asking for. Here you go. The "Third Party" was an allied flag in our web, Temporary Insanity, who were in it for practice, were hiring at the SAME RATE AS US, and never got above FIFTEEN JOBBERS. You raised pay when there was a TWO TO ONE jobber margin in YOUR FAVOR, including the so-called "Third Party"! I told you what was going on when you raised pay and complained about the "Third Party", but you refused to believe me. We matched pay early on in the blockade, only to be re-raised when jobbing was still 2-1 to you. As for "getting out shipped" - Of course you were getting outshipped, you were 3/4 done loading a GRAND FRIGATE, that's where all your jobbers were. Don't give me that bullcannon! At one point during this blockade, W.T.F was outjobbing G.G by a margin of almost 3-1. Please don't tell me you like even blockades, because that is just a farce. Burni, peace out. ---------------------------------------- Burninator Semi-retired. |
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basso
Joined: Mar 19, 2006 Posts: 3093 Status: Offline |
To be fair, isn't a parley filled with "spin" a bad thing? Nothing encourages me to post more than when someone starts trying to twist things to paint a picture that does not exist. ---------------------------------------- Montage of Sage
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tcrabby
Joined: Jan 14, 2006 Posts: 624 Status: Offline |
As a lot of GG members explained to you, our "third party" was an ally that was trying to gain blockade experience by driving their own ship and joining us on vent. They decided to gain that experience by paying from their own pocket and risking their own ship (in the event we went sinking), for which we applaud them. When you raised pay you were already outjobbing us and our "third party" had 1 jobber. Our "third party" didn't get a ship out onto the board until mid r1 when they finally raised pay above what GG was paying to get their WB filled. If you were "out shipped" it was because you were filling a Grand Frigate and/or because our land staff was better, NOT because we were anywhere near your jobbing numbers. At the end of the day we're not too worried about you raising pay, we figured you would do it anyway. Congratulations again on the win, we hope you enjoy running AA! ---------------------------------------- Scurvycrab Impending Insanity Good Grief
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mads0001
Joined: Jul 22, 2006 Posts: 5987 Status: Offline |
That's not the first intent I've done, as I'm sure Beebe will tell you. My failings with photobucket are legendary :P And veiled insults? I've no idea what you're talking about... ----------------------------------------
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Br0kenAngel
Joined: Oct 28, 2006 Posts: 1776 Status: Offline |
If it gets people posting more, then it is a good thing. I don't know why a parley filled with "spin" is a bad thing. Unless we're talking about "spin" differently, that is. I'm not talking about mudslinging or lying; I'm just talking about using things that happen or stating opinions in such a way that they might paint someone in a bad light and incite some actual political action, rather than saying that everyone can do whatever they want, blah blah fluffy bunnies. -BA EDIT: Added quote for reference. Also noticed that Scurvy ignored my previous post and just replied to the jobbing issue. PS - Looks like Burni does care about it, so I'd be careful saying that "we" don't really care. ----------------------------------------
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Burninat0r
Joined: Mar 19, 2006 Posts: 2327 Status: Offline |
ORLY? You need to get a clue then. ---------------------------------------- Burninator Semi-retired. |
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Br0kenAngel
Joined: Oct 28, 2006 Posts: 1776 Status: Offline |
So if you realized that he was being intentionally inflammatory, why did you completely ignore it? He gave you a perfect opportunity to point it out and garner jobber support. Perhaps you wouldn't have been outjobbed 3-1 at one point if you'd been willing to show your teeth a little bit and claim someone was being a meanie jerkface? Instead, you just ignored it and gave no one a political reason to job for you. The political game is dying for exactly this reason. People seem too worried about upsetting everyone else and forget that in doing so, they'll likely gain a fair amount of jobbing support. Next time grow a pair and man-up in defense of someone in your flag instead of sweeping it under the rug. -BA ----------------------------------------
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Fixated
Joined: May 11, 2007 Posts: 2556 Status: Offline |
It's Burni. He reacts that way to EVERYTHING. And just a question, how is it that the flag most known for third partying at an extremely high pay gets angry at another flag for having a third party with the same rate? o.O Just a question.. ---------------------------------------- Fixation: Captain of Nerdfighteria Island, Princess of It's Complicated. Avatar by the beautiful Gwiddon!! Two camels in a tiny car. |
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Burninat0r
Joined: Mar 19, 2006 Posts: 2327 Status: Offline |
BA, you underestimate the power of the paywar. "Manning up" to display our dirty laundry on Parley may be great entertainment for you, stir up barnacle for the ocean, but in the end, it really just isn't worth it to us and our image to get in another pissing match with Mr. Mads again. It certainly didn't help us last time. If you think pissing matches bring in jobbers, I think you are sorely mistaken. And us having some sort of moral high road in parley isn't going to stop W.T.F from raising pay when we are outjobbed that much. ---------------------------------------- Burninator Semi-retired. |
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Valscor
Joined: Dec 8, 2007 Posts: 230 Status: Offline |
Bad from who's perspective? Fluffy bunnies <3 ^_^ *huggles* makes me quickly browse a thread and then tune it out. On the other hand when people start throwing flames back and forth I'll read just about every post. If I want a No Spin Zone I'll watch Bill O'Reilly ----------------------------------------
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mads0001
Joined: Jul 22, 2006 Posts: 5987 Status: Offline |
And you need to not cheat. ----------------------------------------
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sed729
Joined: Dec 1, 2005 Posts: 3858 Status: Offline |
That is the point Monty (the part in bold specifically). Sure twisting, BS, and spin might not be your cup of tea per se and yes it for sure gets out of hand. But man is it interesting and it gets people talking. As always it's a balancing act and people need to decide which way is more fun for them. BA and myself in the other thread were just pointing out a good example of why things aren't the way they used to be in parley or even in blockades. Obviously some people enjoy the fluffy bunnies or there wouldn't be as many blockades at it seems there still are. Obviously some people don't. But if you don't like the fluffy bunnies, rainbows, and hugs the only way that anything will change is if people actually do something about it. If they don't do something about it then they can retire and accept that it is a way of old. I am sure Mads would love the company. Sniped times 50 you jerks, I am out of practice stop posting so fast! And also, why did I post my fantastic Exhibit A and Exhibit B in the other thread if this one gets all the action?!?! Stop stealing my thunder Ele! Edit: Wording. Man I am out of practice! ---------------------------------------- Beebe
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Br0kenAngel
Joined: Oct 28, 2006 Posts: 1776 Status: Offline |
I was going along the same lines as you recently until Val made a post that really made me stop and think. The gist of his post was that if pay was all that really mattered, how do you account for jobber differentials at even pay? The majority of blockades start at even pay these days and yet one side typically gets out to a jobbing advantage. Also, during a blockade you see pay going back and forth because when it is even, one side is outjobbing the other. Where does that difference come from, if not from politics? You might say it comes from friends, hearties, allies, etc. (which I will agree with on a certain level), but those are all relationship driven things. Those relationships used to be highly influenced by things that happened on parley, because people were willing to attempt to influence them with their posts. Politics will always be a part of the game. Just because people think that pay is the end-all-be-all of getting jobbers these days, doesn't mean that it is. I think the ocean at-large would be surprised by the amount of jobber influence you can have by being politically active and by playing the social puzzle, of which parley could be a large part. Eleanor Roosevelt once said that you can only be insulted by someone if you let them. I think the wisdom of this statement can apply to parley as well. Politics and parley will only be dead if the people that regularly play the game and read parley think that it is worthless and dead. -BA ----------------------------------------
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Jutecloth
Joined: Jun 2, 2006 Posts: 869 Status: Offline |
Eleanor Roosevelt was a whore. rhetoric != politics ----------------------------------------
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Duck_man2000
Joined: Feb 24, 2006 Posts: 2842 Status: Offline |
I blame the Grand Frigate. ---------------------------------------- Soulsearcher |
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BloodTaker
Joined: Mar 3, 2008 Posts: 154 Status: Offline |
Can you name one blockade WTF has allied with a flag to help them win? Because I can't think of any. Except Amity where we only enterd 1 round and there wasn't even a chance of a blockade seeing as the flag didn't seem to have a clue what they were doing. ---------------------------------------- BloodTaker Avatar by Iljaynell ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by BloodTaker at Apr 14, 2009 10:06:25 AM] |
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