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Lotsofgoats
Joined: Apr 4, 2005 Posts: 10160 Status: Offline |
I think everybody needs to wait and give the blockades a chance before jumping to conclusions. As for conclusions, here are some I've heard already:
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mads0001
Joined: Jul 22, 2006 Posts: 6594 Status: Offline |
"contesting" is a rather loose term for what needs to be done. ----------------------------------------
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Bonkers38
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Slight bit over the top, maybe heading on the right lines though. I would maybe say that it will ruin the flags image and just about turn the major alliance rings against them. ---------------------------------------- Ex-Benno of Sage Semi-retired Uncontrolled on the Sage ocean Don't like the way I word things? well here is a hint, DEAL WITH IT! |
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Pawn360
 Joined: Dec 3, 2007 Posts: 57 Status: Offline |
lyrick is funny...2nd if hes gonna contend with LOL he needs 4k a seg....lol good luck ---------------------------------------- Ex Griefer Kader Ex Wild Twisted Fun Kader Bnav Prodigy FO in IE FLAG Lord im getting to old for this..... |
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Faldrok
Joined: Nov 28, 2005 Posts: 1641 Status: Offline |
Wow, good job at blowing my posts out of proportion, Goats! I'm pretty sure I wasn't saying "OMG, BLOCKADES ARE COMING TO AN END!!!" I admit, my post could have been a bit excessive, but I was doing that to show my disapproval of the very large multi-drops. 3-4 islands? That's not terrible. But nine? C'mon. Nine? Completely unnecesary. Anyways, here's why I think this weekend won't be absolutely amazing (Though it may have a few good blockade rounds in it, as I have already noted) all-around. To me, a "good" blockade is a hotly contested one. By that, I mean, say both sides field at least 80-100 jobbers total but not really more than 350-400 (Though it's still doable if it's close). Also, both sides are fairly even in their jobbing. As in, not by more than a WB or two. Also, it's nice to have all the rounds (At least the first three, more is better) contested like I just mentioned. But with 9 blockades, those conditions probably won't be met. Most I've ever seen jobbing for one side in a blockade was ~600 (Anyone reach 700)? If they happen to get those numbers, hell, let's give them 700, then they could contest at all 9 islands with slightly under 80 jobbers each, and it'd be a pretty fun weekend if they could pull it off. If they do this, I would admit I'm wrong, retract all "negative" statements I've outlined in this thread, and give credit where credit is due. However, to me, it seems more likely that they're going to follow what Good Grief did and hop from island to island. While not completely terrible at the islands that get the action, it means there's going to be a lot of flag sitting going on. And I'm not a huge fan of unnecessary flag-sitting. In fact, I'm against it. If a flag pulls out of a blockade early due to financial reasons or not being able to win anymore, I can agree to that. But anymore than that and meh. Anyways, we'll see -- even though it sounds like I'm saying Chuck Norris can't pull it off (Whatever "it" is), I'm not saying it's completely out of the question. I'd just hate to see this happen over and over. EDIT: Whoa, typed up the wrong flag name. My bad. ---------------------------------------- Faldrok. That is all. ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by Faldrok at Jun 13, 2008 8:33:24 PM] |
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Lotsofgoats
Joined: Apr 4, 2005 Posts: 10160 Status: Offline |
Sorry bud, things aren't always about you. ---------------------------------------- I am Lotsofgoats and I approve this message. |
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Faldrok
Joined: Nov 28, 2005 Posts: 1641 Status: Offline |
Err, sorry. Only myself, Phil (Who just agreed), Okcorral and Zoel replied before you, and neither of them really touched on any points you mentioned (Other than myself), so I just naturally assumed you were responding to me. My mistake there. I still stand by my points, though. Just read "my posts" as "the views shared by some people on the ocean, including myself" and problem solved. :P Though, I don't speak for other people which is why I was just talking about my posts. Ah, well... ---------------------------------------- Faldrok. That is all. |
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Twistedtwist
Joined: Nov 22, 2005 Posts: 183 Status: Offline |
As much as i would agree with goats... i am quite interested to see what he has up his sleeve.... after all.. it is breaking the barrier for most kades in a weekend... not to say undeclared has broken many barriers that the OMs have questioned... it changed game mechanics... showing to all these kades will be interesting.. notice the timing he has on it... might be strategy? either way.. someone drops a chest.. im interested... the end.. § ---------------------------------------- Finally a Silenced Soul http://www.pirates-in-real.page.tl/Sage.htm Are you Twistedtwist? Prometheus I was, that means I am... |
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neonblaze
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This is so pathettic, What yer basically doing is splashin yer money about to get what u want, Rumors are too... that BTV (flag originally from hunter) are helping out too (with the money me guessin). Anyway its just wrong and yer gonna ruin it. I know which side im on no matter how much poe is thrown in per seg |
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Faldrok
Joined: Nov 28, 2005 Posts: 1641 Status: Offline |
Hmm, I'm too lazy to edit my previous posts as I'd have to reword some of what I said, but I must have misinterpreted what my source told me when I first heard about the blockades. I thought all drops happened at the same time but since they are, in fact, spread out a little, I'm lessening my "disapproval" of it, though I still disapprove initially on the mass amount of drops. Just figured I'd get that out there now. I'm slightly more optimistic that it will be "OK", but I won't be around to see it (And don't want to watch 9 blockades worth of videos), so I expect a detailed report. :P ---------------------------------------- Faldrok. That is all. |
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silvermerc
Joined: May 8, 2006 Posts: 708 Status: Offline |
Oh good, parley can all sleep easier now. ;-) Lupeloca ---------------------------------------- -The Mad Tea Party- -Good Grief- -Some where on Sage- -Planet Earth - |
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Faldrok
Joined: Nov 28, 2005 Posts: 1641 Status: Offline |
Aww, do people really not discuss anything on Parley anymore? <--Sad, sorta ---------------------------------------- Faldrok. That is all. |
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Chloezz
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You do realise they havn't even dropped the war chest yet? And there blockading like 7 Islands <_< |
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ToniGirl
Joined: Feb 22, 2007 Posts: 1206 Status: Offline |
wha??? ---------------------------------------- Tonigirl on Sage. Different names in different places. Always a tart. |
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wokbok117
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The blockade may not be this weekend, may not even next, they're just saying that they will blockade Admiral at some point (the ultimate time) and when that time comes, they will pay 4k per seg. The fact that they dropped however many chests this weekend has nothing to do with this intent post. |
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Chloezz
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I was clearing up too the guy that sed they had dropped 4 =] |
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Ynahteb
Joined: Nov 22, 2005 Posts: 821 Status: Offline |
THEY aren't saying anything. Noone from Chuck Norris has even posted in this thread if I'm not mistaken ;) ---------------------------------------- Squee! |
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rascal84
Joined: Dec 21, 2005 Posts: 1101 Status: Offline |
Chuck Norris can't post in parley,Parley would explode from the awesomeness alone. |
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damagon
Joined: Oct 20, 2005 Posts: 4023 Status: Offline |
Chuck Norris Vs: 12:00 PA 12:06 LoL 12:56 Pirates Inc 1:45 Dirty Deeds 2:30 Tea and Strumpets 3:20 Spontaneous Combustion 4:30 EG 5:20 SoS 5:21 High Kingdom 5:22 Cocktail Party So how many blockades, out of the 10, do they not have to show up to be considered griefing? ---------------------------------------- Damagon |
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Ynahteb
Joined: Nov 22, 2005 Posts: 821 Status: Offline |
Just one. ---------------------------------------- Squee! |
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Lotsofgoats
Joined: Apr 4, 2005 Posts: 10160 Status: Offline |
Kay honestly, why the hell is everybody crying, "GRIEFING!!!!!!" already? Why hello there jumping the gun, nice to see you in Parley again! Give the damn flags a chance to contest before sending them to the gallows, please. Honestly, if a flag cries, "YOU'RE GREIFING ME!!!!!!" because of a single blockade, it probably needs to be looking into buying a massive box of tissues rather than complaining. ---------------------------------------- I am Lotsofgoats and I approve this message. |
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Zyxt
Joined: Dec 19, 2005 Posts: 743 Status: Offline |
Beth, I'd love to see where you got that from. I tried searching everywhere on griefing and blockade griefing, and only found two main things.
Located here . And from the Captain himself:
However, no matter where I looked, I couldn't find a thing that showed that what Chuck Norris did was griefing. Now, if they were to only contest a few and then CONTINUE these actions, I think that's griefing based on the ToS alone. As is though, I don't see Chuck Norris simply trying to wear down the opponents will to fight. In fact, each blockade is against a different flag. If anything, it seems like they're just hurting themselves in the long-run. ---------------------------------------- Avatar by Tilinka. Hypnos tells you, "wut u st00pihd" Weejonnyb says, "Z, you have balls" An Oceanus-approved nutter. "Ohai Dea-OHGODNOTMYFACE!" "Zyxt is like porn." Pretty. |
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vnork
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If you drop a chest, you are required to contest that island. If you drop 10 chests, you are required to contest all ten islands. That's the bottom line, although the defender does have to /complain for the OMs to do something. -Vnork |
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Zyxt
Joined: Dec 19, 2005 Posts: 743 Status: Offline |
As I asked Beth, where did you get that from? ---------------------------------------- Avatar by Tilinka. Hypnos tells you, "wut u st00pihd" Weejonnyb says, "Z, you have balls" An Oceanus-approved nutter. "Ohai Dea-OHGODNOTMYFACE!" "Zyxt is like porn." Pretty. |
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vnork
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I've personally petitioned an OM before, and gotten that response. The OM was Hypnos I believe, who should be very familiar with the rules. -Vnork |
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Ynahteb
Joined: Nov 22, 2005 Posts: 821 Status: Offline |
Woah patience mate, sorry I didn't reply right away amidst several blockades. I didn't really expect there to be any HWFO about my comment, I was under the impression that no showing any blockade was a bannable offense, probably under the spirit of the game clause. No I don't have a concrete OM source to give you, but after some search I found this thread that gives some discussion from players, and mentions previous rulings on the matter. The yppedia page on Robertdonald also mentions a Ringer policy. So yeah, no actual game documentation on the matter by any means, but if I led a flag that was dropped on and my opponent didn't field any ships, I would likely /complain, or at the very least petition, especially if the case was one where it seems like the flag was very aware that they will not be fully contesting when they dropped. Edit to say: This post is just meant to argue the theory, yes I was skeptical about the intentions/abilities of Chuck Norris, but so far they do seem to be reasonably contesting all of the blockades I've seen today, with the help of BTV and other flags, although I've been on the jobber side and at least partially oblivious. ---------------------------------------- Squee! ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by Ynahteb at Jun 14, 2008 3:50:40 PM] |
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icefrogger13
Joined: Jun 9, 2005 Posts: 303 Status: Offline |
You said Robertdonald... Now chavez is going to show up and rant about Midnight and the 'Notorious Fandango days' for several pages... ---------------------------------------- "Two shoppes per week rule" - keeps one flag from completely ruining/overbuilding an island without the ocean having a chance to prevent it by blockading. Brigand Kings = A cheap way around it. |
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Zyxt
Joined: Dec 19, 2005 Posts: 743 Status: Offline |
No worries Beth. Didn't mean to sound hostile. I've just been wondering about this for a while, and since I've yet to find anything, I was hoping you'd be able to show me where you got your information. No HWFO. Honest. <3 ---------------------------------------- Avatar by Tilinka. Hypnos tells you, "wut u st00pihd" Weejonnyb says, "Z, you have balls" An Oceanus-approved nutter. "Ohai Dea-OHGODNOTMYFACE!" "Zyxt is like porn." Pretty. |
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Faldrok
Joined: Nov 28, 2005 Posts: 1641 Status: Offline |
Ynahteb already cleared it up, I think, but it's just a "generally accepted rule of thumb" much like not posting chat logs on the forums. Neither of those had any previous ruling until situations arose in which the OMs had to make a decision. Anyways, yeah... So how'd the blockades go? I'm about to check the scores, but that's nothing near the actual story most of the time. ---------------------------------------- Faldrok. That is all. |
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Zyxt
Joined: Dec 19, 2005 Posts: 743 Status: Offline |
(All times are approximate) 6:34-6:46 PM PST Amity Island- Round 5 started 29 minutes ago. LoL 2r 276pts CN 2r 17pts Basset Island- Round 4 started 41 minutes ago. DD 1r 177pts CN 2r 0pts Ventress Island- Round 4 will start in 11 minutes. TaS 2r 317pts CN 1r 50pts Kakraphoon Island- Round 2 started 27 minutes ago. CN 1r 120pts SoS 0r 0pts Bowditch Island- Round 2 started 24 minutes ago. BtB 1r 232pts SoS 0r 65 Kiwara Island- Round 2 started 24 minutes ago. CN 1r 189pts HK 0r 42pts Ashkelon Arch- Round 2 started 25 minutes ago. CP 0r 321pts CN 1r 26pts Scrimshaw Island CN 3r Undeclared 2r PA 0r Kashgar Island SC 3r CN 0r Gauntlet Island GG 3r CN 1r Pirates Inc 0r ---------------------------------------- Avatar by Tilinka. Hypnos tells you, "wut u st00pihd" Weejonnyb says, "Z, you have balls" An Oceanus-approved nutter. "Ohai Dea-OHGODNOTMYFACE!" "Zyxt is like porn." Pretty. |
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