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Posted by polaris395 at Nov 9, 2017 2:10:58 PM
Distilling on Obsidian - Has the puzzle changed?
Edit: Posted in the wrong forum, drat! I'll see if I can get it moved to Tips N Tricks...

Ahoy all,

I've asked around my flag, and I can't seem to find anyone who has reliably distilled for a while, so I turn to everyone here with my question.

As of a few days ago, potentially with the November patch/update, distilling has been spawning MANY more spice pieces for my pirates. I don't mean one or two, but 5-7 on the board at a time. Now, I'm around a GM distiller on Obsidian (or.. was) and so I routinely hit CC11/12, and my max is CC13. I would get a spice piece here or there, and I can work around it and I also felt like it didn't really kill my scores.

Now, I am seeing 10+ spices each puzzle and it's blocking EVERY move that I know. Speed doesn't seem to be an issue; it's literally the spices.

I've also noticed that on the distilling stat board (lol) there are now fewer and fewer Ults on the list and it's got me wondering, legitimately, if there was an undercover puzzle spawn change. It is even harder now, IMO, and I really just need a sanity check. I haven't checked out other oceans, so if others would chime in that would be great too.

TL;DR Am I crazy or has distilling started spawning much tougher boards with more spices?

Cheers!
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Posted by Zxyz at Nov 10, 2017 10:12:31 AM
Re: Distilling on Obsidian - Has the puzzle changed?
I haven't seen any change to spawns.

 
Now, I am seeing 10+ spices each puzzle and it's blocking EVERY move that I know.


This happens very rarely (in my experience), but feel free to post a video of this happening. Often if I'm stuck it's because I've made a mistake or a series of poor decisions to get myself in that situation. It could be that you are managing the spice spawns poorly.
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Posted by DementedDuck at Nov 11, 2017 5:41:53 AM
Re: Distilling on Obsidian - Has the puzzle changed?
I've also noticed no difference in spice spawn rates.

 
I've also noticed that on the distilling stat board (lol) there are now fewer and fewer Ults on the list

Number of ults is a direct result of the number of active puzzlers. Distilling has never been a popular puzzle and having <10 ultimates on the board has not be an unusual state of affairs for a long time.
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Posted by hallaluah320 at Nov 20, 2017 8:36:23 AM
Re: Distilling on Obsidian - Has the puzzle changed?
Spices are roughly the same.
White spawn is a little streaky and sporadic though.
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Posted by Prammy16 at Nov 20, 2017 11:40:58 PM
Re: Distilling on Obsidian - Has the puzzle changed?
 


TL;DR Am I crazy or has distilling started spawning much tougher boards with more spices?

Cheers!


I thought I was crazy too, but I'm glad someone else had the same experience... For me it seemed to happen most at the beginning of the month, but I've since not had any problem with it, so I'm not sure what's up. There was a spat there where maybe 1/3 of the game just got super clogged and difficult to navigate, so I know what you mean.
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Posted by Kyura94 at Dec 22, 2017 3:02:07 PM
Re: Distilling on Obsidian - Has the puzzle changed?
Zxyz:
 
I haven't seen any change to spawns.

 
Now, I am seeing 10+ spices each puzzle and it's blocking EVERY move that I know.


This happens very rarely (in my experience), but feel free to post a video of this happening. Often if I'm stuck it's because I've made a mistake or a series of poor decisions to get myself in that situation. It could be that you are managing the spice spawns poorly.


I'll just leave this here then :l



Voice SFX kept going "Spicy!" with me going "oh, is it?"
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Posted by hidemyhoney at Dec 27, 2017 2:42:45 AM
Re: Distilling on Obsidian - Has the puzzle changed?
 
Zxyz:
 
I haven't seen any change to spawns.

 
Now, I am seeing 10+ spices each puzzle and it's blocking EVERY move that I know.


This happens very rarely (in my experience), but feel free to post a video of this happening. Often if I'm stuck it's because I've made a mistake or a series of poor decisions to get myself in that situation. It could be that you are managing the spice spawns poorly.


I'll just leave this here then :l



Voice SFX kept going "Spicy!" with me going "oh, is it?"


Well with this current puzzle curve IF you got a CC13, you probably would have gotten an incredible from my testing, (depending how many you already burnt).

To another point I feel this Distilling Curve is unfair to the majority of Distillers, I bet you current Meridian/Emerald/Cerulean Ultimate Distillers about 85-90% cannot reach Ultimate or have given up on trying to get ultimate. Another frustrating thing is that CC14 is borderline incredible, while CC13 is only if you get a lot of spices, I do hope overtime CC13 is 100% incredible on Obsidian by then you'll probably have a lot more people Distilling.
With the white spawns I've noticed on average there is a bit less, and I've gotten alot more situations where, you have a perfect game (meaning you can't move any more pieces across), and end up only getting a CC11/12 which is very frustrating on Obsidian, if all perfect games you could get at least CC13 then I would accept it.
Hopefully for every ones sake puzzle curve improves overtime since well it took 6 months to go from CC14 incredible, to CC13 a lot of spices incredible as the borderline to ultimate.

Edit - Typo :/
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Posted by Devonin at Dec 27, 2017 9:46:16 AM
Re: Distilling on Obsidian - Has the puzzle changed?
The curve is bad because a lot people hate that puzzle, and only people who are good at it play it with any regularity.

Posted by hidemyhoney at Dec 27, 2017 4:40:18 PM
Re: Distilling on Obsidian - Has the puzzle changed?
 
The curve is bad because a lot people hate that puzzle, and only people who are good at it play it with any regularity.


Well the biggest reason I see is there is a certain dude with 8 alts on that top 10 list, which doesn't help the average anyway. Either he distills with just the 1 acc or more people distill is only way it'll be actually doable for the rest of the 90%.
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Posted by zapadapa at Dec 27, 2017 5:11:22 PM
Re: Distilling on Obsidian - Has the puzzle changed?
I think a lot more people would like distilling if it wasn't for the time limit. Or maybe have an option to slow it down? I like it but can only get CC7 because it is too fast for me.
Even if a slower version was not eligible for high stats (because it would not be fair to those who can do it fast), I would still like it better and want to play it more.
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Posted by Silverdream at Dec 27, 2017 5:29:33 PM
Re: Distilling on Obsidian - Has the puzzle changed?
Every game with CC 12 and then 3 to 4 games with a lucky spawn to get increds with CC 13 (enough spices ) or CC 14/15 and you will hit the ultimate. Means only to have enough life time for this, nothing more. Same procedure on ice and obsidian.
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Posted by hidemyhoney at Dec 29, 2017 12:20:25 AM
Re: Distilling on Obsidian - Has the puzzle changed?
Nothing wrong with the speed in the puzzle, if there was more time for rows it would affect all oceans and the curve/puzzle and it would be too easy (maybe get away with burning more pieces?), just incredible borderline right now on obsidian is unfair for the majority of the ocean that try to learn it, Especially where all perfect games aren't 100% CC12 plus which is very disheartening.
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Posted by lady_maeror at Jan 13, 2018 3:54:11 AM
Re: Distilling on Obsidian - Has the puzzle changed?
Trying not to bring up a dying thread but don't want to repeat the same content in a new one.

I too am experiencing a greater spawn of spice, while having cc^9/10 already set up (full screen) will only net me cc^11 on average, there are simply not enough whites spawning to get a higher score. Added to the amount of spices I am burning, my scores have been dismal. I hit a cc^13 as a good a few days ago. Luck truly must be on your side to hit an incred lately!
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Posted by Kyura94 at Jan 13, 2018 7:04:13 PM
Re: Distilling on Obsidian - Has the puzzle changed?
 
Trying not to bring up a dying thread but don't want to repeat the same content in a new one.

I too am experiencing a greater spawn of spice, while having cc^9/10 already set up (full screen) will only net me cc^11 on average, there are simply not enough whites spawning to get a higher score. Added to the amount of spices I am burning, my scores have been dismal. I hit a cc^13 as a good a few days ago. Luck truly must be on your side to hit an incred lately!

Hi Arianne. Firstly kudos for making it to Weighty! Distilling on Obsidian can be very disheartening and not many people try for nearly as long as you have.

I personally don't think white spawns have changed at all. Probably negativity bias where we remember the poor spawn occasions more than the generous ones. Nonetheless if spawns have indeed been reduced then this harms everyone.. which harms no one.

I do wanna say though. If your set up strength is always between 9 and 10 then you're easily Leg standard, even with horrible spawns and/or spice traps.
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