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Posted by cyndiepet at Jun 16, 2005 12:19:03 PM
[Viridian] Intent for Conglin
To all members of the Viridian Community,

I, as Queen of the Flag Pay for Play, would like to publically announce that we intend to blockade the island of Conglin on Saturday June 18th at 3:00 PM EST, 12 PM PST.

The blockade will be sinking, and bound to have some fun glub glub. Jobbing contacts will be Cyndiepet and Sweetcalidae.

At the end of the blockade, there will be a 100K SF and 100K drinking tourney to say thank you to all for some good fun. Huggles!
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Original Queen of Pay for Play

now....

GET OFF MY LAWN!

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Posted by lokonzo at Jun 16, 2005 12:59:32 PM
Re: [Viridian] Intent for Conglin
Do you have any opposition?
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Posted by ninja277 at Jun 16, 2005 1:22:45 PM
Re: [Viridian] Intent for Conglin
Correct date on the blockade is the 18th of June at the time posted by Cyndiepet.

As far as what Lok asked, we do not know if there is any competition or anyone else contending, but they are welcome to post their jobbing contacts here:)
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Posted by Akumu at Jun 16, 2005 2:45:42 PM
Re: [Viridian] Intent for Conglin
Does Pay for Play support the same tactics of war that the leadership supported in thier last flag's war against Moros de Mindanao?

Does Pay for Play support the use of Able alts for "mercenary" activities in other flags?

Do the leaders of Pay for Play express any remorse for the fact that they used said alts to sink smaller, inexperienced pirates with no political injury to said last flag, aka, the founding purpose of Pay for Play by Poesink according to past Pay for Play public statments?

Posted by NinjaGuy at Jun 16, 2005 2:53:23 PM
Re: [Viridian] Intent for Conglin
Do you know why I pulled you over?
Do you know what speed you were going?
Do you know why I have to write you a ticket?
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Posted by maisutero at Jun 16, 2005 3:02:23 PM
Re: [Viridian] Intent for Conglin
I'm not bad, I'm just rendered that way.

Post retracted because it sounded like a prick wrote it. Pehaps I am forum passive/aggressive.

At anyrate, don't hijack people's threads to tart at them. It's bad form. :-(
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Posted by Akumu at Jun 16, 2005 3:17:41 PM
Re: [Viridian] Intent for Conglin
Yes. I'm horrible for "smearing" a flag that was founded by Poesink to wage war on newer flags who, at the time, had little exprience in anything. According to Tristan, a prince of Pay for Play, Poesink is an alt of one of the characters in said flag. Poesink has a sea battle rating of Broad/Able, while the main, according to Tristan, is currently Solid/Ultimate.

I'm a mostly inactive player now, however, it irks me to see flags who were founded to grief inexperienced players acting like that never happened. You wanna go support griefers on Viridian, be my guest. As far as "smearing" goes, I'm just reminding the rest of the playerbase what the leadership of Pay for Play want to ignore.

Posted by starrarose at Jun 16, 2005 3:46:18 PM
Re: [Viridian] Intent for Conglin
Ah... I'd just like to point out that Akumu isn't a part of a flag right now. For many reasons that are his to disclose if he should see fit.

Personally. I'd like to with Pay For Play Luck. And a note - if we've got nothing else to do, Moros will most likely be borrowing a Fandango's of Midnight game and playing Ketchy Cubby at either Conglin or Dendrite. Maybe both.

See you on the board!
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Posted by Tiernan at Jun 17, 2005 12:49:43 AM
Re: [Viridian] Intent for Conglin
Akumu wrote: 


Do the leaders of Pay for Play express any remorse for the fact that they used said alts to sink smaller, inexperienced pirates with no political injury to said last flag.

Show remorse for sinking ships of a flag they were at war with?

Akumu wrote: 

Yes. I'm horrible for "smearing" a flag that was founded by Poesink to wage war on newer flags who, at the time, had little exprience in anything

War only happens when the second flag accepts the declaration of war. Are you saying they took of advantage of these flags because they didn't know what it meant to accept the declaration of war? If that is the case, then mabye they shouldn't have formed a flag before they knew this basic fact.

Posted by Soulja at Jun 17, 2005 1:57:38 AM
Re: [Viridian] Intent for Conglin
He's talking about alt abuse, not war. JEEZ. Viridian people keep proving themselves worse and worse. They're like RD without any of the skills.
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Posted by Siggy at Jun 17, 2005 2:26:17 AM
Re: [Viridian] Intent for Conglin
Tiernan wrote: 
Akumu wrote: 


Do the leaders of Pay for Play express any remorse for the fact that they used said alts to sink smaller, inexperienced pirates with no political injury to said last flag.

Show remorse for sinking ships of a flag they were at war with?

Akumu wrote: 

Yes. I'm horrible for "smearing" a flag that was founded by Poesink to wage war on newer flags who, at the time, had little exprience in anything

War only happens when the second flag accepts the declaration of war. Are you saying they took of advantage of these flags because they didn't know what it meant to accept the declaration of war? If that is the case, then mabye they shouldn't have formed a flag before they knew this basic fact.


And maybe using alts to bypass might rings is specifically mentioned in the RD clause (i.e. spirit of the game) of the TOS.
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Posted by Allura at Jun 17, 2005 5:06:28 AM
Re: [Viridian] Intent for Conglin
Soulja wrote: 
Viridian people keep proving themselves worse and worse. They're like RD without any of the skills.


And, once again, the forum makes me question why I spend any time playing this game at all. The insults aimed at Viridian are getting tiresome. I'm certainly not going to argue if you have problems with individuals, I just take issue with insulting everyone on an ocean. Please stop.
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Posted by kbuds at Jun 17, 2005 11:24:16 AM
Re: [Viridian] Intent for Conglin
You silly Viridianites and your... oh wait..
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Posted by ottovb at Jun 17, 2005 5:48:26 PM
Re: [Viridian] Intent for Conglin
Soulja wrote: 
He's talking about alt abuse, not war. JEEZ. Viridian people keep proving themselves worse and worse. They're like RD without any of the skills.


Awww. . .
Where is the LOVE?

Posted by Scarblac at Jun 17, 2005 6:38:49 PM
Re: [Viridian] Intent for Conglin
Soulja wrote: 
He's talking about alt abuse, not war. JEEZ. Viridian people keep proving themselves worse and worse. They're like RD without any of the skills.

Way to generalize. You do realize that Viridian typically has more people playing than the other oceans combined?

(Based on checking it about three times during this week, could be that my European timezones are a-typical, but it certainly seems that way)
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Posted by starrarose at Jun 17, 2005 7:05:15 PM
Re: [Viridian] Intent for Conglin
No, those numbers are about right at any given time of day actually. And not all of the Viridian ocean is "unskilled"

Although it will be amusing to see how well the server holds up under 3 blockades all running together.

Good luck again Cyndiepet.
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I think the OM's suck and are cheats.

no u

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Posted by cyndiepet at Jun 17, 2005 10:47:11 PM
Re: [Viridian] Intent for Conglin
Thank you Pheonix. Good Luck to you as well :-)
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Original Queen of Pay for Play

now....

GET OFF MY LAWN!

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Posted by meow123_456 at Jun 18, 2005 6:30:49 AM
Re: [Viridian] Intent for Conglin
cyndiepet wrote: 
blockade will be sinking, and bound to have some fun glub glub.


and there was! castor hired people to try and stop pay for play, but 'we' got sunk 3 times and i got a pegleg!
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Posted by ninja277 at Jun 18, 2005 7:51:52 AM
Re: [Viridian] Intent for Conglin
I want to thank all of our allies for showing up and supporting us in winning Conglin. Also, thanks to Castor for fielding 3 war frigs and bringing some excitement to the blockade. You rawk mate:)
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All Oceans

Posted by cyndiepet at Jun 18, 2005 10:45:01 PM
Re: [Viridian] Intent for Conglin
Aye, thank you to all of our friends and allies who helped make this a great day for our Flag. I hope that everyone had as much fun as I did. Thank you, Castor, for bringing in the frigs and adding to the excitement :-D Huggles!
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Cyndiepet

Original Queen of Pay for Play

now....

GET OFF MY LAWN!

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Posted by Siggy at Jun 19, 2005 2:27:04 AM
Re: [Viridian] Intent for Conglin
/em openly wonders how much more action there would have been if P4P and Req. didn't get their older brother SSS to blockade Olive...

I guess we'll see how those flags do in a real blockade once they get their shoppes up. After all, the shoppe dead travels with the outpost...
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Posted by joris at Jun 19, 2005 7:09:53 AM
Re: [Viridian] Intent for Conglin
I was kind of bummed when i heard SSS was blockading prolix, actually. It was SSS's decision to do so, and Pay for Play had no connection to that happening, nor did it persuade SSS to do so. We would have rather had some competition, as there was nothing till we called in castor and his narya frigates.

Don't stick this on Pay for Play, and get your facts straight before posting them, or word yourself in a mannor that is questioning what happened, not explaining.
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Posted by Siggy at Jun 19, 2005 11:36:01 AM
Re: [Viridian] Intent for Conglin
Fact: Req and P4P are allied with SSS

Fact: Req and P4P blockades started 30 minutes before SSS's blockade started.

Therefore, it is logicial to conclude that SSS is protecting the blockades of Req. and P4P by blockadeing Olive.
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Posted by joris at Jun 19, 2005 12:41:35 PM
Re: [Viridian] Intent for Conglin
Siggy wrote: 
Fact: Req and P4P are allied with SSS

Fact: Req and P4P blockades started 30 minutes before SSS's blockade started.

Therefore, it is logicial to conclude that SSS is protecting the blockades of Req. and P4P by blockadeing Olive.


Ok, so i guess it would be against reason for 2 flags to want to blockade an island they want the weekend it comes out, and for a flag that was going to blockade the weekend before to blockade now due to difficulties the weekend before?

Logic is not fact. Do not mistake the two. No one from Pay for Play asked SSS to blockade olive to "shield" our blockade. We would not have asked Castor to come in and create some entertainment if we wanted an actionless blockade the olive battle provided us. We would have loved for the ketchy cubby that MDM had planned at the conglin blockade to go forward, but it was not our decision to cancel that. Please do not make our flags look bad for fielding 2 frigates and 2 brigs for a tiny little outpost.
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Posted by Siggy at Jun 19, 2005 1:45:25 PM
Re: [Viridian] Intent for Conglin
Facts ----> logical conclusions


Logical conclusions -----XXXX--->fact

Furthermore

OM contesting blockades!=player's contesting

Sorry, it isn't the same. I would believe that there would be a great outcry if the only reason a flag lost an island was because of OM spawned ships. The OMs would never field enough ships/people to put an island bid in danger unless they screwed up (origional blockades on Cobalt, for example). Simply put, if they did, then the risk vs reward would be too high to be worth the trouble since Narya could get ships till the cows come home. Ships going glub sink glub? Sure. Narya defending an outpost? Not gonna happen.
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Posted by zamorak at Jun 19, 2005 2:34:36 PM
Re: [Viridian] Intent for Conglin
Why exactly are you complaining Sig? You got to have fun at your own blockade and you didn't get your ships sunk. So would you rather be mad at P4P because SSS didn't blockade Olive and you lost your ships?
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Posted by Siggy at Jun 19, 2005 3:04:56 PM
Re: [Viridian] Intent for Conglin
Speaking for myself, I would rather have had fun taking a new island then defending Olive.

On the other hand, defending the homeland is more important then expanding it.

You're also assuming that MdM wouldn't have entered at least one of the outpost blockades when, in reality, we would have. Hence, we still would have had some blockade fun...
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Posted by Akumu at Jun 19, 2005 3:07:01 PM
Re: [Viridian] Intent for Conglin
joris wrote: 
Siggy wrote: 
Fact: Req and P4P are allied with SSS

Fact: Req and P4P blockades started 30 minutes before SSS's blockade started.

Therefore, it is logicial to conclude that SSS is protecting the blockades of Req. and P4P by blockadeing Olive.


Ok, so i guess it would be against reason for 2 flags to want to blockade an island they want the weekend it comes out, and for a flag that was going to blockade the weekend before to blockade now due to difficulties the weekend before?

Logic is not fact.


Okay, then here's another fact: Scupperer stated that they were blockading Olive to keep "the other alliances" busy. An additional fact: SSS planned to blockade Olive as a rushed decision... all my sources say they planed a proxy war the weekend before when their proxy backed out. Get your facts straight.

Posted by narche at Jun 19, 2005 5:08:54 PM
Re: [Viridian] Intent for Conglin
Just out of curiosity, Akumu, what is your stake in this? You seem to be expressing quite a bit of opinion (both here and in game) for an unaffiliated crew. I'm not sure benevolence is the right answer.
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Posted by Akumu at Jun 19, 2005 5:12:29 PM
Re: [Viridian] Intent for Conglin
My motives are all my own.

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